[TenPercenter]

We settled (via polls) on a set of chips that are shown here:




... This set was chosen by taking free-form submissions, getting "seconded" into a poll, and then by process of elimination getting down to this final set.

This was all democratic, scientific, and also a bit chaotic. What we ended up with IMO was not the set that everyone is excited about, me included. (I've tried to keep my opinion out of it for the most part, but I too am not 100% happy with all these chips) There are two or three chips that I like a lot, no doubt. It seems to me that we had a lot of great mockups in the master thread, but they kinda got lost in the midst of formal submissions and polls.

We then ran a poll asking which chips needed "attention" to tweak it to where we liked it. Astonishingly, every ship (except one) got a significant amount of "no confidence" votes. The one that didn't fare badly was the blue $1 chip.

I propose this: Let's take the $1 blue chip as is, and discuss the rest of the set from $5 on up, one by one. This is basically where I was headed a couple of weeks ago, but instead of tweaking a few "problem" chips, let's do the whole set sans the $1. The white spots on blue seems to be the one chips that has popped up in a LOT of submissions from the beginning, so let's roll with it.

I want to do this fairly quickly, and not spend too much time on any one chip.

** Do not submit chips here, we'll do that in a separate thread for each color. Just tell me what you think about this direction. I want to get to inlays quicker rather than later.

[SandmanDC]

The Black chip IMO would look better with Dayglo green and the Pink edgespots, other than that the rest look pretty good.

[wijwij]

Thank God, Tenpercenter, you've decided to approach this chip set from a new perspective. I have stopped following the whole contest because I couldn't imagine designing an inlay for such a mish-mash of chips.

I think the contest rules stipulate that participants can suggest their own color sets, so it is still possible for someone with a coherent idea about chip edgespot coloring to come up with a strong suggestion that works well with their inlay design. In the end, I suspect that is what will happen. Even if the preliminary edgespot/color palette is agreed on and approved, it will I predict not be the best one for the winning inlay.

Nonetheless, since the draconian system of the contest requires a set of colors to be chosen, you might as well do it incrementally.

I do not know how easy it will be to get people to agree on fundamental issues such as -- edge spot progression? if so, in what way? -- and whether colors should be shared or not among chips, etc.

However, here is one thing I would suggest as a way of thinking about this. For a full set like this, the chips break into "chunks", and certain chips act as "pivotal" points joining the chunks.

25c, 1, 5 are a chunk -- usable for home games

5, 25, 100, 500 are a chunk -- typical for tourney chips

500, 1000, 5000 are a chunk -- high-end of tourney

So it is the 5 and the 500 chips that need to act as transition points. That is, you might imagine a way of handling the 25c, 1, 5 so that it seems to make sense, but have the 5 also work as the low end of tourneyland. Similarly, the 500 is a culmination of opening stacks for many tourneys, yet it also needs to work well with the higher tourney chips.

So maybe think about how the 5 chip might "fit" with the 25c and 1 but also "announce" tournament-ness. And think how the 500 chip might work in a similar fashion.

I know this sort of means having to come up with a concept behind the edge spot development. But someone better propose something because the current set seems to lack any motivating design inspiration.

Then again, if it is too hard to do this, why not just have the contest place inlays on solid chip backgrounds. Judge them that way, and then work out a process by which edge spots can be agreed on.

[Poboy]

It seems like we're going backwards (or at least not forward). I think having people design the whole shebang at once - colors, spots and inlays, then tweak would be better. Or at least a less democratic way of picking colors or we'll be at this forever.

[grath]

So is the 5 first, or the .25?

[TenPercenter]

Originally Posted by grath

So is the 5 first, or the .25?

The $5. It's hard to base a set off of the 25¢ becuase it'll commonly be the plain chip.

[TenPercenter]

Originally Posted by Poboy

I think having people design the whole shebang at once - colors, spots and inlays, then tweak would be better. Or at least a less democratic way of picking colors or we'll be at this forever.

I thought so to, but look where it got us. I think the white-on-blue $1 chip has been a winner from all angles the whole time. I don't want this process to drag out before getting to inlays, so we cannot start over with full set submissions.

[indypoker]

$5 - I like the chip color, but something about the edge spot colors are off.

$25 - I think the chip color is off. It is an off green that could be darker in color or even a brighter green.

$100 - This chip is OK, but the pink edge spot could be changed IMO. The pink just seems out of place.

$500 - I think there needs to be more contrast between the chip color and edge spot color.

$1000 - OK, not a big fan of that shade of orange.

$5000 - I just don't like this chip, it seems really plain for such a big chip.

[STANK1000]

so are we discusiing the $5 here. if so....
the $5 here is alright, not what i would design, but wouldn't turn me away from the set (in fact, if these are going to be 9.5, i'll probably be in for anything that's not repulsive).
i'll just say that my favorite $5 chips are the modern clay (although i could see why they wouldn't want to duplicate it in another set of their own chip) and the paulson vineyard. not that i care if the colors of the vineyard 5 are actually on the $5, but i would love to see them somewhere (maybe the $1000). i also like the samurai $5 (more in the mockups than the actual chip).

[FL70]

OK people focus...FOCUS!

This thread is about Ten's proposal to take the chips and tweak/design 1-by-1 starting with the $5.

I propose this: Let's take the $1 blue chip as is, and discuss the rest of the set from $5 on up, one by one. This is basically where I was headed a couple of weeks ago, but instead of tweaking a few "problem" chips, let's do the whole set sans the $1. The white spots on blue seems to be the one chips that has popped up in a LOT of submissions from the beginning, so let's roll with it.

I want to do this fairly quickly, and not spend too much time on any one chip.

** Do not submit chips here, we'll do that in a separate thread for each color. Just tell me what you think about this direction. I want to get to inlays quicker rather than later.

So on this thread, please post whether you like Ten's proposal (above) or you have a different idea/direction for the design process.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program already in progress...

Ten, I second (or third or whatever we're up to) your proposal to keep the $1 and start a separate thread for designing the $5.