[mac40k]

Originally Posted by TenPercenter

I propose this: Let's take the $1 blue chip as is, and discuss the rest of the set from $5 on up, one by one. This is basically where I was headed a couple of weeks ago, but instead of tweaking a few "problem" chips, let's do the whole set sans the $1. The white spots on blue seems to be the one chips that has popped up in a LOT of submissions from the beginning, so let's roll with it.

I'm not clear exactly what is being proposed. Are we just going to tweak base and edgespot colors or are the edgespots themselves up for debate? While I may personally not like the edgespot progression, if we open it back up at this point to changing them, aren't we going backwards? Or are we to assume the spots associated with each chip are fixed at this point?

Also, if we are going to work on each chip one by one, without respect to how they fit into the overall set, don't we risk losing any cohesion the set has? I don't think we want to end up with a collection of chips that individually look fantastic, but together look like the set was made up of a random mix from different sets.

Or are we just now realizing that trying to do the whole set at once is too confusing and we'll focus on them one by one, then go back and tweak the whole set again to ensure they work well together?

I'm also confused as to how the inlays play in. I seem to recall that inlay designers would have the liberty to change the colors/edgespot colors to better suit their inlay design. If they can change (or propose we change) what we decide on through this process, shouldn't we just let the inlay designers propose the colors along with the inlay and hold off on tweaking them until afterwards? Or are we now proposing that we lock the colors and force the inlay designers to work with that as a constraint?

[OnTheButton]

OK this is just a suggestion...

What if we did something where we focus on JUST the edgespots, combos and progressions in the chipset using "black and white" (white, gray and black) to show to the selected progression and selections like this:



And then vote on a favorite.

(Whenever I would do logo designs for clients, they would ALWAYS start as black and white, and then color was introduced. This just seems like a logical progression of design to me for this project.)

The next phase would then be to pick the BODY colors for the denoms:



And then vote on a favorite.

And the final phase to pick color for the edgespots would be left ENTIRELY to the designers to enhance their inlay designs:

Any thoughts, or does this bring it back to the starting point?

(Please forgive the fact that these are ASM chips, but this laptop has Java problems and seems to like the ChipTalk chip factory more than the others.)

[imthatguy]

Originally Posted by OnTheButton

OK this is just a suggestion...

What if we did something where we focus on JUST the edgespots, combos and progressions in the chipset using "black and white" (white, gray and black) to show to the selected progression and selections like this:



And then vote on a favorite.

(Whenever I would do logo designs for clients, they would ALWAYS start as black and white, and then color was introduced. This just seems like a logical progression of design to me for this project.)

The next phase would then be to pick the BODY colors for the denoms:



And then vote on a favorite.

And the final phase to pick color for the edgespots would be left ENTIRELY to the designers to enhance their inlay designs:

Any thoughts, or does this bring it back to the starting point?

(Please forgive the fact that these are ASM chips, but this laptop has Java problems and seems to like the ChipTalk chip factory more than the others.)

This is the best idea yet. Can't we just do this? Good work onthebutton.

[burnvalley]

That is an excellent Idea!!!! Let's get this a rollin!

[STANK1000]

do i have time to take a nap?

[Poboy]

Originally Posted by STANK1000

do i have time to take a nap?

Might even have time for a dirt nap . We can't even decide on how to decide.

To me, OTB's idea is taking us back to the beginning. If we're not going to let the designers work on the whole shebang together, then let's go chip by chip, minus the locked in blue.

[grath]

I have a feeling Ten will have to make an executive decision...hopefully soon. That being said, here's my two cents: break out the inlays. It makes very, very little sense to do anything without knowing what the inlays look like. Does anyone disagree with this?
Post the inlays, then people can at least know what colors they're putting together or how they'll be used.

[JT-Bird]

Originally Posted by JT-Bird

I vote for anything that will get the process moving forward!!

One question, should we AT LEAST try to agree that we are working within the paramaters of the existing edge spot progressions?

If we can commit to THAT, then at least we have framework by which we can move forward. An alternative approach might look something like this...

1. Agree on Edgespot Progressions
2. Agree on Base Chip Colors

If we get those nailed down, then the edgespot colors become the only subjective component of design and we should easily be able to put those up to a vote for each chip.

I knew OnTheButtons Idea sounded familiar!

[JM]

The way I understood it, the edgespot progression is set as you see it at the top of this thred. Now we tweak the colors on those chips aside from the blue chip which is set.

For colors on the red, I'd make the purple into dark blue and the tan grey.

[OnTheButton]

Originally Posted by Poboy

To me, OTB's idea is taking us back to the beginning. If we're not going to let the designers work on the whole shebang together, then let's go chip by chip, minus the locked in blue.

In a way, aren't we starting over again?

To me it doesn't make sense to keep going half-arsed in a direction that isn't working. And often starting over with a better perspective and direction actually results in a smoother and faster result than trying to patch up something that is known to be deficient.

I'm not defending my idea, just suggesting that we look at this a little differently to get interest back into the contest that is a more logical approach to a better end result.