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Re: Mint vs. Uncirculated

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Just wanted to add a few to what Quads said, mint is new usually use to describe home chips. UNC is for Casino life or retired chips.
i would like to subtrac.. its so obvious what the meanings are. just listen to the words. "uncirculated" plain and simple.. chips that have never seen play. they were never circulated. "mint" obviously this chips have been out of the cage. other wise they would be uncirculated. with that said. they are in mint condition. as in the best possible condition. people. stop and listen to your selfs.
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Re: Mint vs. Uncirculated

I think you are on the right track here and agree completely with you as to what uncirculated means - a chip that has never seen circulation.

To my way of thinking though, mint though doesn't necessarily mean that a chip is circulated. Many chips are referred to as mint and uncirculated so the terms are not mutually exclusive. I believe that mint simply denotes perfect condition.

From http://www.usingenglish.com/referenc...condition.html:
Meaning:
  • If something is in mint condition, it is in perfect condition.
From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/mint:
Adj.1.mint - as if new; "in mint condition" perfect- being complete of its kind and without defect or blemish; "a perfect circle"; "a perfect reproduction"; "perfect happiness"; "perfect manners"; "a perfect specimen"; "a perfect day"



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Idiom: in mint condition (in mint state)
  • In perfect condition, as if brand new; never or hardly used.
Thus, a chip that is mint and uncirculated is the best possible condition possible and has never been used.

My 2 cents.
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...its so obvious what the meanings are. just listen to the words. "uncirculated" plain and simple.. chips that have never seen play. they were never circulated. "mint" obviously this chips have been out of the cage. other wise they would be uncirculated. with that said. they are in mint condition. as in the best possible condition.
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Re: Mint vs. Uncirculated

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I think you are on the right track here and agree completely with you as to what uncirculated means - a chip that has never seen circulation.

To my way of thinking though, mint though doesn't necessarily mean that a chip is circulated. Many chips are referred to as mint and uncirculated so the terms are not mutually exclusive. I believe that mint simply denotes perfect condition.

From http://www.usingenglish.com/referenc...condition.html:
Meaning:
  • If something is in mint condition, it is in perfect condition.
From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/mint:
Adj.1.mint - as if new; "in mint condition" perfect- being complete of its kind and without defect or blemish; "a perfect circle"; "a perfect reproduction"; "perfect happiness"; "perfect manners"; "a perfect specimen"; "a perfect day"




From http://www.allwords.com/word-in%20mint%20condition.html:
Idiom: in mint condition (in mint state)
  • In perfect condition, as if brand new; never or hardly used.
Thus, a chip that is mint and uncirculated is the best possible condition possible and has never been used.

My 2 cents.
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if you noticed tho each dictionary states the meaning of mint with "as if brand new" not brand new but they add the "as if" meaning that its not new but in new condition. there for mint is not uncirculated.
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Re: Mint vs. Uncirculated

IMO, the term mint doesn't have anything to do with being circulated or not. It has to do with condition and 'perfect' or 'like new' is what it conveys.
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if you noticed tho each dictionary states the meaning of mint with "as if brand new" not brand new but they add the "as if" meaning that its not new but in new condition. there for mint is not uncirculated.
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Re: Mint vs. Uncirculated

I thought I read in a thread on CT somewhere (probably collectors corner) that mint is only a term that should be used as it pertains to coins because coins are made at a mint. So a "Mint" condition coin is one that is straight from the press. That is why the Chip collectors don't use the term mint.
It is a NIT for sure but I know I read that somewhere
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Re: Mint vs. Uncirculated

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I thought I read in a thread on CT somewhere (probably collectors corner) that mint is only a term that should be used as it pertains to coins because coins are made at a mint. So a "Mint" condition coin is one that is straight from the press. That is why the Chip collectors don't use the term mint.
It is a NIT for sure but I know I read that somewhere
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now that makes more sence to me then anything else that's been said in this thread so far.
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Re: Mint vs. Uncirculated

I only use the term "mint" when referring to a light green chip with brown inserts.
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