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Old 08-22-2006, 01:27 PM
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Some WSOP chip commentary and a WARNING!!!!

As indiacted by various eBay offerings, some of the WSOP Tournament chips have walked away from the event. I know of at least one eBay offering that shows an entire set, all 9 chips, as a single lot up for auction. (This same set was up last week, but for what ever reason was cancelled and the re-posted. This usually means the seller accepted an offer through non-eBay channels and cancelled the auction. If the deal fell through, then the lot got re-listed. Of course there could be other explanations, but this is typical.)

There are other eBay offerings for individual WSOP chips and as you might expect, they are commanding rather high prices. Several discussions are taking place over on thechipboard.com about the racks of WSOP chips, what might happen to them, will they be seen again next year, will Caesars Palace be the venue, or the Rio, etc.?

Obviously, the chip collecting community is interested in having samples sets and the CT community is interested in having playable sets, and although everyone might have an opinion as to what will happen to the chips, only tikme will tell.

However, there is a dastardly plot developing out there to take advantage of unsuspecting individuals by creating bogus WSOP error chips! Within the chip collecting community of individuals who also play poker at the various casinos, we have long known that the Bud Jones series of chips (like thos used at the WSOP) are easily altered to swap the vinyl inserts of two differenly denominated chips. So simple is the process, that once moved, both chips will appear as though the mishap took place at the factory!!!!

I caution everyone to not believe an offer (in person, or via email, or on eBay) where the WSOP chip being sold is billed as an error chip and the error is two different denominations on a single chip.

Pictured below, courtesy of CC&GTCC Hall of Famer and well known poker room manager, Mr. Gene Trimble, is the common WSOP error chip that this warning is about.



Taking this one step further, I would be cautious of any similar error chip from a seller will little or not standing within eBay. After all, how hard is it to scan two different chips and edit in any inlay you want with Photoshop, and post an auction?

And to compound matters more, the technique of swapping inlays on this style of Bud Jones chips is not new and some collectors have seen it done, by players, while they are waiting for the next hand. If you play poker, you know you can sit there for hours on end. epending on how bored one gets, is how much effort the spend playing with the chips, learning to shuffle, roll them on your hands, back spinning to have them return, swapping inlays, etc.

Anyway, please use caution and while you are out there, I'd love an email or PM to advise me of any such offerings.

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Re: Some WSOP chip commentary and a WARNING!!!!

Thanks for the warning Jim. Glad we have you to let us know things that come up on TheChipBoard. I would be more active over there, but I just cant stand trying to navigate the board. It kills me because its really a great place, especially for collectors.
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Re: Some WSOP chip commentary and a WARNING!!!!

That might be something to bring up over there. That is the single reason I don't visit there. It's absolutely painful to navigate through.

Great info about the WSOP chips though Jim, thanks!
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Re: Some WSOP chip commentary and a WARNING!!!!

That picture looks amazing similar to this one from last year's scam.


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Re: Some WSOP chip commentary and a WARNING!!!!

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Re: Some WSOP chip commentary and a WARNING!!!!

I would say that it is the same exact scan (minus the $100), as the insert alignments on the green chips are identical. However, the scan was only meant to be representative of the scam. Since, in reality, anyone can scan any two chips, cut and paste the inlay of one onto the inlay of the other and say the resulting two chip scan shows both sides of one chip, the real purpose of the image to is show what the chips look like in general.

The warning remains valid.

As for the layout of thechipboard.com, I guess this makes me bi-postal!

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Re: Some WSOP chip commentary and a WARNING!!!!

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That might be something to bring up over there. That is the single reason I don't visit there. It's absolutely painful to navigate through.

Great info about the WSOP chips though Jim, thanks!
FYI, I've seen the exact same comments in the past at thechipboard about navigating this chiptalk site.
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Re: Some WSOP chip commentary and a WARNING!!!!

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FYI, I've seen the exact same comments in the past at thechipboard about navigating this chiptalk site.
LOL. I guess its because once you get used to a certain format, its hard to adjust to a completely different one. One day I'll take some time to really check out thechipboard, maybe after I spend some time there I'll get used to it.
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Re: Some WSOP chip commentary and a WARNING!!!!

Not wanting to Shanghi my own thread, but.....

Both boards have a lot in common. When I electronically introduced both of the Web Masters, I sent them an email with the following Subject: "To the two Gregs in my Internet life".

Greg Cagle and Greg Susong

I think they both do very well for what they individually want their websites to be and if they were the same, then we would not need or want both.

I enjoy both (sites). OK, the Greg's as well!

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Re: Some WSOP chip commentary and a WARNING!!!!

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FYI, I've seen the exact same comments in the past at thechipboard about navigating this chiptalk site.
That may be true, however I'm not just comparing the chipboard to chiptalk. I frequent a half a dozen forums everyday. They all use the same basic format whether they are vBulletin, Invision, smf or whatever. It's the same easy to read and navigate format. There is a reason that almost all forum packages are basically the same from a navigation standpoint. Ease of use.

The Chipboard is one of the exceptions though. WebBBS just isn't a good package to use for navigation. It's great if you're an HTML ninja and your the admin, but for users it's pretty terrible.

This is just MO of course.
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