[AlbinoDragon]

One more:



4th ed. $0.25 on the T mold. It's worn with a little bit of grime. The hot-stamp isn't shiny anymore, but is quite clear, as seen by the scan. They're actually a little more fun this way. They have a history. It's almost like they want to talk.

Enjoy!

Gil (A.D.)

[AlbinoDragon]

Gang:

Here's the latest addition to the collection!!



Only a photo for now as I don't have access to the scanner for about a week, but had to share it. A third edition quarter that was part of the "Card Room" issue. It's cousin can be found in the form of the dime from the same issue (located in the O.P.).

There will be others that will show up in about a week's time. Keep your eyes peeled here for those!

Enjoy,

A.D.

P.S. - I tried changing the main title and that failed miserably. Oh well!

[Nanook]

Originally Posted by AlbinoDragon

Gang:
Here's the latest addition to the collection!!
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Nice

Originally Posted by AlbinoDragon

There will be others that will show up in about a week's time. Keep your eyes peeled here for those!

Sweet! Can't wait.

Originally Posted by AlbinoDragon

Enjoy,
A.D.

I am enjoying your thread a lot! This is a great idea to collect from one casino. There are just waaaaay too many otherwise. I think I should opt for this route. I just have to decide, which casino. That is the hard part, I like them all.................

Originally Posted by AlbinoDragon

P.S. - I tried changing the main title and that failed miserably. Oh well!

To change the main title you have to click on advanced edit and then you will be able to change the title.

Nanook

[AlbinoDragon]

Here is the promised scan of the 3rd ed. quarter:


I think it looks fantastic next to the $0.10 from the same release. Same mold, same hot-stamp and two really great colors for a couple of solid hot-stamp chips.

Another addition:


A 7th edition faro chip in a lovely light pink. Obviously, this one doesn't look all that good. The chip itself is in relatively good condition with plenty of texture and the edges not too rounded. The only bad thing is the total lack of the foil in the hot-stamp. The impression is still there (it's a little difficult to see in the scan, but in better lighting, it shows up just fine). Kind of an interesting chip in that this was the next to last issue for the California Club and I would suspect was in use in the very late 60s (considering CC closed in 1970).

That leads to the nice online summary of the game called "Bucking the Tiger" by Mark Howard which states that by the 50s there were only five active faro games (called "banks") in all of Nevada. The last one was the Ramada in Reno in 1985. Needless to say, this could be considered a rare and historically interesting chip only in that the game wasn't played very much at the time and obviously the California Club was one of the few places where it was played.

I'm still debating where this falls in my interpretation of 7th ed. vs. 7th-and-a-half ed. The font style is totally different than any of the other 7th edition chips and I wonder if it might actually be from an earlier release. That said, I don't think they were using CJ H&C mold chips for anything other than the 7th edition. A bit of a mystery. Where's that time machine when you want it????

I have more new CCs that will get scanned here in the next several days and added to the gallery here. Thanks for the comments!

Here's the link to Mark Howard's article:
The Game of Faro - History & Rules for the King of Old West Card Games

P.S. to Nanook, I tried the change in the advanced settings and it still shows up under an old title in the front page of the collector gallery. Thanks for the tip though!

[AlbinoDragon]

Somewhat unexpected arrival of three chips.. Without further ado:



These are two more of the multi-color edge spot 7th ed. $5 chips, this time in brown and lavender. If I read the Chip Rack right, I believe there are still four more to collect for all of the different spots they used for these. Finally (for this time at least):



This is the orange spot variant on the 8th ed. $100 chip. Like the yellow spot I have, it's minty fresh and the hot-stamp is pristine. It's so shiny that it looks patchy in the scan. Still a beauty.

Enjoy!

[gmunny]

That faro one is way cool! Great info, btw. All are nice pickups. I have 2 faro chips, one from the Stardust and one from the Carousel. Btw, are you wathcing the mint green roulette large crown?

[AlbinoDragon]

Originally Posted by gmunny

Btw, are you wathcing the mint green roulette large crown?

Watching and won! More than I expected, but that's OK. I'll post it once it arrives!

I'm just trying to figure out where in the timeline it falls. It's not in C&W (no large crowns are), so I can't use that as a reference. Looking at TCR, there are no other large crowns that are attributed to the CC (it looks like only the one roulette issue). The hot-stamp looks different than the other hot-stamps I've seen either in my collection, or in pics/scans of other CC chips. For the time, I'm a bit stumped. I see TR King as the owner/user of the mold and that it was used till '67, so that helps (very little actually... certainly not the 8th issue) but beyond that... got me!

Yet again, I'd like to have the time machine for nothing else than to get some history on this place. It's hard to find much of anything.

Thanks all on the comments.

[gmunny]

Originally Posted by AlbinoDragon

Watching and won! More than I expected, but that's OK. I'll post it once it arrives!

I'm just trying to figure out where in the timeline it falls. It's not in C&W (no large crowns are), so I can't use that as a reference. Looking at TCR, there are no other large crowns that are attributed to the CC (it looks like only the one roulette issue). The hot-stamp looks different than the other hot-stamps I've seen either in my collection, or in pics/scans of other CC chips. For the time, I'm a bit stumped. I see TR King as the owner/user of the mold and that it was used till '67, so that helps (very little actually... certainly not the 8th issue) but beyond that... got me!

Yet again, I'd like to have the time machine for nothing else than to get some history on this place. It's hard to find much of anything.

Thanks all on the comments.

I found it in TCR. What edition do you have? I have the 10th edition. #V8163 says Green LCrown HS-Gold, "Caliifornia Club" Bear Right, Date 1957. I think you scored!

[AlbinoDragon]

The OP has been modified a bit. For starters, there are two new additions.


This is a 4th edition chip... likely roulette. A gorgeous green large-crown hot-stamp. It's in quite good condition, but a little dirty. Rather than actually clean the few relatively small gunk spots, I touched them up in Photoshop. They only amounted to a couple pixels across each (maybe 2mm across) and all on the outer edge. I'm just going to leave them.


This is a 3rd edition chip. It's in rough shape (as described in my question thread from last week). My guess is water damage, though maybe exposed to heat on one side. The light blue base has "puffed up" around the spot insert on the top (as oriented in this scan). The spot appears unaffected. Very strange damage pattern. I love it, but I'll keep my eyes peeled for one in better shape (something I'm not generally doing with any of the others posted here).

TCR lists this chip as 25-cents, but the denomination is clearly an overstamp. I found the original Taylor & Co. records for the California Club chips they produced on preservinggaminghistory.com. They show three interesting things:


Composite of the five stamp samples on the Taylor & Co. records... they were originally on two separate cards/pages.

In essence, to confirm that the 25-cent stamp is an overstamp, Taylor had a specific 25-cent stamp and a non-denomination stamp, as can be seen here and well as on the 25-cent 3rd ed. in the OP.

Second, from the records, we know the chips Taylor & Co. produced were delivered in December 1953. My guess is they went into play in the very early part of 1954. This helps refine and confirm the order of the various releases/issues from the California Club.

Third, and most intriguing, there was a third edition hot-stamp $5 on the T-Mold from Taylor & Co. It was orange with six green spots... probably 614. Both the $5 and the $25 in the OP are listed as having green spots, but I would call the spots on the $25 light green. Until one actually appears out of the dark, we probably won't know.

In the same theme as the third point, there were the following chips made by Taylor & Co. (presumably all on the T-Mold). All were late 1953 delivery, except the pink $100 which was 1955.

• Base - Spot - Denom - no. Made
  
• Purple - None - 25-cent (two separate "pressings") - 2420 (total)
• Pink - None - $25 - 404
• Orange - 6 Green - $5 - 3000
• Yellow - 8 Green - $25 - 3000
• White - 8 Green - $100 - 1000
• Pink - 4 Black - $100 - 1009
• Lt. Blue - 3 Yellow - plain - 2000
• White - None - plain - 500

The chips that are actually listed in TCR are in yellow.... There were also six different color plain chips delivered in 1955 (Orange, Lavender, Yellow, Pink, Chocolate and White). Could these have been used as roulettes (they only made 303 of each)?

Enjoy the chips and the cracking of a little mystery. I've been asking for a time machine for the last little while. Stumbling across the Taylor & Co. records (and the information on the 5th ed. $5 on casinorarities.com) has definitely served as that time machine!!

[Gaming Ore]

A.D., you are to be commended! I've checked with the holder of the Taylor Co. records and your supposition is correct. The blue with three yellow inserts chip was shipped with only the "California Club" hot-stamping. The "25" (in large font) was apparently added later.

This is based on the following rationale....

First off you need to understand that the card you show that depicts the different denominations is a bit misleading. Techically speaking, there is only one die there (on that card) that was made for the California Club. The is the circular appearance of the name "California Club".

Taylor Co., as all other chip makers had in-house (stock) numeral/denomination dies. The denomination was fitted into the name die and then used to create the single hot-stamp. In theory, if you could blow-up the detail on the card and if any of the letters in "California Club" were dinged or mis-aligned, that flaw would appear in every instance of the stamping on the card, i.e., all five examples.

The holder of the records said that the blue, 3-yellow inserts chip was shipped with only the "California Club" name and no denomination. If the casino wanted it changed later to a quarter chip, they had the option to send them back to Taylor Co. (Illinois) for hot-stamping (where just the denomination die would be used) but had they done that, Taylor Co. would have just used the smaller font denomination.

However, being that there were several shops in town (Vegas) that could do hot-stamping of chips, chances are the casino just went down the street and had them done and the only denomination font available was a large font "25".

So, it appears that you did some sleuthing that pieces some history together, and although other interested parties may have figured this out previously, it seems that it is not publicly documents until your post!

Good job!

But this begs the question... You have to wonder if all those chips (blue with 3 yellow inserts) got the denomination hot-stamp? I would suspect that if there were any hold outs, they would be worth quite a bit more than the over-stamped ones which are valued at: $125-$149!!!

Nice work!

Jim (Gaming Ore) Follis