Am I on the right track

[stocky]

I am looking to get some custom ASMs done and will be doing a tourney set and a cash set.

Just want to know if this all sounds right for 10max

Cash will be either 25/50c or 50/1

Tourney will start at 25/50 and I want enough to do t5000 and t10,000 starting stacks

10,000x10 = 100,000

8x 25 = 200
8x 100 = 800
6x 500 = 3000
6x1000 = 6000

100x t25 = 2500 2500/10 = 250 10 chips
100x t100 = 10,000 10,000/10 = 1000 10 chips
100x t500 = 50,000 50,000/10 = 5000 10 chips
100x t1000 = 100,000 100,000/10 = 10000 10 chips
50x t5000 = 250,000
450 Chips

100 x25c = $25
200 x$1 = $200
80 x$5 = $400
50 x$20 = $1000
430 chips
=880

20x Bounties

900 chips

Thanks for any help you can give me

[stocky]

Dont worry I searched and found out looks like im heading the right way. Can a mod please delete?

Thanks

[Mojo1312]

Hi Stocky,

I should let you know my views are considered hugely unconventional, but this hasn't stopped me from sharing my thoughts.

Knowing your tournament's blind structures would be helpful. Do they double each round or gradually progress? Will players be able to re-buy or add-on? This would effect the amount of chips you will need. I am assuming by the number of bounty chips the answer is yes on re-buys.

Looks like the chip breakdown for your tournament will work, but short of the necessary details on the length of the rounds, blind structures and player re-buys I am just giving you my best guess.

You also don't give any details concerning the buy-in amounts for your cash game.

I personally am not a fan of deep stack home games with low blinds for the following reason:

Your not in a casino with a table full of strangers. These are people you know and play with every week. Low blinds and deep stacks devalue cards and reduces pre-flop action by encouraging players to limp in on the cheap with any two cards. Fine, if you want a low action, low stakes game interspersed with a few showdowns for big pots.

I prefer to mix my game up more against players I know by adjusting my style to meet or counter theirs. This should not require a deep stack, unless you are weak in these areas or like to pretend your playing a $1, $2 game at a casino.

That is why I think home games with .50 nd 1$ blinds with buy-ins that range from 40x to 80x the BB are more interesting.

But I digress.

Your cash set for a ten player game:

100 x25c = $25
200 x$1 = $200
80 x$5 = $400
50 x$20 = $1000 for a total of $1625

I think you would get more mileage using the same number of chips with the following breakdown:

100 x 25c
130 x $1
160 x $5
40 x $25 for a total of $1955

You can start each player out with 8 .25 chips and 8 $1 chips equalling $10 and the rest in fives. This leaves you with enough chips to fill 10 starting stacks and two re-buys.

With this arrangement you can also do 10 starting stacks of 8 .25 chips and 13 $1 chips equalling $15 and the rest in fives. You have plenty of fives and twenty five's to hand out for re-buys. Your also not dipping into a fourth chip denomination until you surpass $950 at the table.

Other reviewers will tell you to make the $1 chip your workhorse, but to what practical end? Give them legos if they want to build walls.

[stocky]

Thanks, the cash game is usually $50 max and run after the tourney, but I want enough for the occasional bigger games.

Tourney will depend on a few factors, whether we have bounties rebuys etc. The t5000 will be used for rebuys thats why theres more than I need. All in all I think I'm ok with the tourney set. Untill I start hosting 20ppl tourneys

[JM]

I think your cash game breakdown works well since $20s work better for rebuys than $25s. And you want to be heavier on $1s than $5s since your typical .50/1 pre-flop raise will be less than $5 so you want plenty of $1s on the table. Nothing is worse than people needing to make change every hand or every other hand. If it were 1/2 then $5s would be your workhorse chip and you could get away with fewer $1s.

[Mojo1312]

Originally Posted by JM

I think your cash game breakdown works well since $20s work better for rebuys than $25s. And you want to be heavier on $1s than $5s since your typical .50/1 pre-flop raise will be less than $5 so you want plenty of $1s on the table. Nothing is worse than people needing to make change every hand or every other hand. If it were 1/2 then $5s would be your workhorse chip and you could get away with fewer $1s.

I would think 130 $1 chips on the table would suffice JM. Your thinking with this amount of $1 chips players will have to make change every other hand?? People who work at MacDonald's can make change. Bad advice.

And as far as $20 versus $25. Count with me, $25 + $5 = $30 + $5 = $35 + $5 = $40. What's so hard?

[AlbinoDragon]

It's a cash game. Lots a chips on the table looks good. We're not recommending an economy set here.

Also, introduce me to a $25 bill and I will promote a $25 chip in a cash set. Until then, I'll stick with $20s.

[Mojo1312]

Originally Posted by AlbinoDragon

It's a cash game. Lots a chips on the table looks good. We're not recommending an economy set here.

Also, introduce me to a $25 bill and I will promote a $25 chip in a cash set. Until then, I'll stick with $20s.

Your missing the point if you think the breakdown in chips is about economy. We are talking about practicality. Introduce me to a casino that uses $20 chips.

[albie]

Unless you plan on playing rebuys, 300 chips is all you need for a tourny set. This frees up chips for the cash set where they are more needed. 8/8/4/8 starting stacks; 80/80/40/100 (+20 bounties)

IMO, your proposed cash set is a bit short of $5s and the bank is a bit small for .5/1. I'd prefer the bank to be around $4000.

80/180/160/80/20 would work well I think (500 chips). Or round up to 100/200/200/80/20 for tidy full racks that are easier to count (600 chips) .

100 x .25
200 x $1
200 x $5
80 x $20
20 x $100

[stocky]

Ease up guys lol.

My main reason for a 20 and not a 25 is because I will have a $25 for the tourney set and didn't want two of the same demons.