help w/denoms please

[rtmunro]

I've accumulated about 1,000 paulson solids for a labeling project. My goal was to buy several colors and end up with a set of 400 for a small stakes no limit cash game. I started grabbing up all the racks of good-mint condition solids I thought I could use, and NOW I have 1000 chips in 8 different colors. Figured I'd pick my favorite 4 or 5, but I seem to like them ALL.

Here's my setup and what I'm thinking about doing. We usually play $.25/$.50 blinds. Sometimes (rarely) $.50/$1. So, I figured I'd make one giant cash set. SOme nights we'll use the $25 as $.25 (etc.) and I can also use it for a small tournament. Is this a huge waste of time & money to label them this way? I mean, labels are not free, and I could probably get back $100 if I sell the chips I don't "NEED". So, should I go back to my plan, part with 3-4 colors I really like and build that 400 chip set I initially meant to? What's your take?

200 Charcoal - $.25
100 White - $1.00
200 Fuchsia - $5.00
100 Light Blue - $10.00 (not a common denom I know, but will be useful in our game)
100 Green - $25
80 Black - $100
100 Purple - $500
70 Yellow - $1000

[stinky]

Tricky.

I'd probably switch the .25 and 1, you'll want more $1 in the overall game, but really you'll probably want more quarters than 100.

How many players are you trying to accommodate, and how many rebuys, etc? Do they prefer a lot of chips, or small stacks?

I'd probably use the fuscha for quarters, Charcoal for dollars at x200 each, then use your proffered x100 count color for $5's (or use 2 x 100 color for $5's), then x80 and x20 for $20/$100 respectively.

Example:

200 x Fuischa $.25
200 x Charcoal $1
100 x Light Blue $5
100 x Green $5 (optional)
80 x Black $20
20 x Yellow $100

The other way is to switch the fuschia to your $5, and use a x100 color to use for quarters, but you wont have that many, but it depends on your game and what you prefer.

Edit: You'll definitely want to avoid using colors that may be close together and thus confusing for players.

[EmptyPocs]

with .25 i personally like everyone to have 40 so 400
but as it stands
200 charc .25 good
200 the fucia to be the $1
100 lt-blue (or green) to be the 5er
probly all you need in a normal .25/.50 game

if you have a crazy game make another 100pc color as the $10's
or even introduce $2 or $2.50 chips since you are short on 5's

the rest i doubt you need
200 of (3)4-5 denoms usually cover it though, try getting more of some color
the problem is too many are @ 100pc

[steve5k]

If you don't want to use all the chipes right now, keep them unlabeled for future/unknown uses. They will come in handy.

Games always evolve. Maybe a 7-stud game will get tossed into the mix. Now you can make a .10 ante chip. Or you end up playing .50/1 NL more frequently, and just want to go with a few .50's per player instead of a barrel of quarters. Owning just 1 rack or so of a unique color is now exactly what might be needed.

I agree that the $1 will be the workhorse, so definitely 200 of those. I would use:
.25 x 200
$1 x 200
$5 x 100
$10 x 100
$25 and up...looks like you have your mind made up on this config.

This would create unusual colors for the cash half of the set, but in time players will adjust. Or do what was mentioned above.....get moar chipes!

[albie]

Cash Set
200 x .25 - Charcoal
200 x $1 - Fuschia
100 x $5 - Light Blue
100 x $20 - White
_______________________
Tourny Set
100 x T25 - Green
80 x T100 - Black
100 x T500 - Purple
70 x T1000 - Yellow

If you play an ante game, it's much easier (imo) to have the dealer ante for everyone. For example, with 7 players and a 10¢ ante, the dealer puts in 3 x .25 chip to cover all the antes.

[pltrgyst]

Originally Posted by EmptyPocs

but as it stands
200 charc .25 good
200 the fucia to be the $1
100 lt-blue (or green) to be the 5er
probly all you need in a normal .25/.50 game

Guess we have a different idea of "normal." Every "normal" NLHE game I've come across in a casino allows a buy-in of at least 200 BB. At .25/.50, that's $100 per player.

At my .25/.50 game, everyone buys in for the maximum, so that's $1000 just to start. With rebuying and adding-on, IMO, you need *at least* 4,000 BB in chips for any NL game.

[rtmunro]

Originally Posted by pltrgyst

Guess we have a different idea of "normal." Every "normal" NLHE game I've come across in a casino allows a buy-in of at least 200 BB. At .25/.50, that's $100 per player.

At my .25/.50 game, everyone buys in for the maximum, so that's $1000 just to start. With rebuying and adding-on, IMO, you need *at least* 4,000 BB in chips for any NL game.

Good lord, you guys are high rollers! We are decidedly not, we play 6 guys, .25/.50, everyone buys in for $40. Starting stack is .25 x 16, 1 x 16, and 5 x 4. After re-buys we'll generally end up dividing about $500 between us, so, in reality we all could buy in for $100 I guess. Trouble is, people get scared away if I say that up front. Seems they have no trouble with 3 $40 buy ins... Go figure, human nature I guess.

Anyway, last game one guy really cleaned up. I had to give him some $25 chips. I bought them in 2008 and this is the first time 4 of them even saw daylight. And, Of course, those $25s never saw the felt. He held on to them like grim death. So, I figured a small number of $10s would actually see some use.

Thanks for the insight guys. I will definitely use it.

[elkid]

I play the same game .25/.50 6 players sometimes just 5. I don't think you need 200 quarters, 100 is more than enough, even with more people. Now if you do up your game to .50/1.00, then maybe but I doubt it. Definitely 200 1.00. and then 100 5.00.

I just held a game with my new set, 6 players and 300 total chips (100/100/100) and I would have liked more 1.00's. We did not run out of chips but you could see people holding on to the 5's. Also, we only had one of our two maniacs at the table or there wold have been more rebuys. Seems we have the same type of players, they will re-buy multiple times but don't want to buy-in initially for a "large" sum.

I think you intial vision of a 400 chip set is perfect for a cash set. But I would go 100/200/100 of .25/1.00/5.00.

Matthew had a nice article on .25/.50 with a $20 buy-in and a 400 chip breakdown. http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/poker-...-games-ii.html


Regards,
Eddie

[Freelancer72]

my 0.25/0.50 game has a $100 max buy-in. most of us will buy in for that much - nobody wants to be shortstacked lol.

i give them:
12 x 0.25
27 x 1
14 x 5

there's been nights there's been more than $2k on the table in play 10 seated.

i don't know why anyone would bother with more than 120 quarters in a set for this type of game - i'd be leaving them all sitting in racks if i had more.

probably the smallest set i'd do for 10 players to cover 0.50/1.00 too is 800 chips, something like this:

120 x 0.25
300 x 1
280 x 5
100 x 25

800 chips for $4230 bank.

[Glider]

Originally Posted by Freelancer72

probably the smallest set i'd do for 10 players to cover 0.50/1.00 too is 800 chips

Good Chiptalk mindset, but 400-600 chips is plenty for a single table. I agree with others that 100 quarters is plenty, especially if you're short-handed. Twelve quarters per player works well for us.

I think 100 quarters, 200 dollars, 200 fives is perfect for this type of game with a smaller buy-in. You can then use the extra color with 100 chips as $20s, which should be enough to cover .50c/$1.

If you're worried about the game getting bigger, you can skip the $20s and use the $25s from your tourney set, and make a cash game $100 chip with the extra color. The reason you will need to do this is that you probably won't want the charcoal and the black in play at the same time since they are too close in color.