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Old 05-29-2008, 09:01 AM
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22 person T10000 breakdown -

looking to bounce this off someone. let me know if you see ways to improve the breakdown.

starting stacks of 8xT25, 8xT100, 8xT500, 5xT1000

230 - T5 (the 220 needed if i ever put them into play with 22 people + 10 extras)
210 - T25 (the 176 needed + 14 extra to fill racks + 10 extras)
210 - T100 (the 176 needed + 14 extra to fill racks + 10 extras)
210 - T500 (the 176 needed + 14 extra to fill racks + 10 extras)
210 - T1000 (the 110 needed + 100 extra for rebuys & color ups + 10 extras)
90 - T5000 (66 for ability to do a T25000 + some for color ups, rebuys in the T10000 game + some extras)

1160 total

- T5's may or may not ever get used.
- i will never go over 22 people.
- dont want starting stack to start with more than 8xT25 since they come out of play so quickly anyways.
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:18 AM
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Re: 22 person T10000 breakdown -

Mi, I think your breakdown is great and very well thought-out. My only difference is that I usually beef up the T100s more and start with 13 or 18. That makes for a larger starting stack without putting a bunch of T25s out there to be colored up in two rounds.

I just cut back the T500s to allow more T100s. I also just like the black chips and I find that they get the most use in the tournament so I like to have a bunch of them on the table.

In short I usually:
Squeeze T25s because they're gone soon (as you mentioned)
Beef up the T100s because they get a lot of play and I like a lot of chips on the table.
Squeeze the T500s because people tend to use the T1000s more
Beef up the T1000s because they get used and the Blaze orange is oh so sweet.
Add in enough T5000s for rebuys and color ups.
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:43 AM
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Re: 22 person T10000 breakdown -

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Mi, I think your breakdown is great and very well thought-out. My only difference is that I usually beef up the T100s more and start with 13 or 18. That makes for a larger starting stack without putting a bunch of T25s out there to be colored up in two rounds.

I just cut back the T500s to allow more T100s. I also just like the black chips and I find that they get the most use in the tournament so I like to have a bunch of them on the table.

In short I usually:
Squeeze T25s because they're gone soon (as you mentioned)
Beef up the T100s because they get a lot of play and I like a lot of chips on the table.
Squeeze the T500s because people tend to use the T1000s more
Beef up the T1000s because they get used and the Blaze orange is oh so sweet.
Add in enough T5000s for rebuys and color ups.
What he said. Especially if you decide to go with antes. I use essentially the same breakdown. In a T10000 you will never use the T5s. Save your money and the frustration of looking at 2+ racks of chips gathering dust.
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:47 AM
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Re: 22 person T10000 breakdown -

I think your starting stacks are fine, but I would leave out the T1000 and beef up the 100 and 500 to make for a larger starting chip count if you have enough chips. In my 2 table T10,000 tourney's I try to give every player 60 or more chips. Players REALLY like a lot of chips!
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:57 AM
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Re: 22 person T10000 breakdown -

Right choice in starting with 8 x $25.

But I would add more $100s so your players have enough chips for betting in the early rounds. You have to buy a few more $100s, but I think this is worth it.

We usually start with 8/13/7/5 and have been happy with that. (But I'm thinking of trying 8/13/5/6 next time for a few more $1000s, as noted above.)

So to minimize the chip purchase (!???) I'd buy 900 chips -- 180/330/210/180 for a standalone set.

But as part of a larger set, I'd go ahead and buy 1000 chips -- 200/340/220/200 to have some for rebuys etc. I'd buy another 70 x $5000 for future flexibility.

I'll ignore the $5s because you won't use them in the 10K tourney, so just buy all you want! Getting 230 sounds like too many to me, but what the hell....
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:38 AM
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Re: 22 person T10000 breakdown -

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looking to bounce this off someone. let me know if you see ways to improve the breakdown.

starting stacks of 8xT25, 8xT100, 8xT500, 5xT1000

230 - T5 (the 220 needed if i ever put them into play with 22 people + 10 extras)
210 - T25 (the 176 needed + 14 extra to fill racks + 10 extras)
210 - T100 (the 176 needed + 14 extra to fill racks + 10 extras)
210 - T500 (the 176 needed + 14 extra to fill racks + 10 extras)
210 - T1000 (the 110 needed + 100 extra for rebuys & color ups + 10 extras)
90 - T5000 (66 for ability to do a T25000 + some for color ups, rebuys in the T10000 game + some extras)

1160 total

- T5's may or may not ever get used.
- i will never go over 22 people.
- dont want starting stack to start with more than 8xT25 since they come out of play so quickly anyways.
Here are my thoughts: 8xT25, 18xT100, 16xT500 starting stacks
T25 - 180 4 left
T100 - 430 34 = $3,400 left for color-ups
T500 - 400 48 = $24,000 left for color-ups
T1000 - 200 color-ups; makes it special to pull out the 1k chip
T5000 - 90

My personal preference is to have a lot more T100s for each player, but that would mean buying more chips

Also; if you want to do a very deep stack tournament that might last all day, a starting blind of 5/10 or 10/20 works well and that would mean you need T5 and more T25 chips
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Re: 22 person T10000 breakdown -

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Players REALLY like a lot of chips!
In our area I would say the opinion is the exact opposite. Nobody likes having to bet stacks of 20. They want to throw out the largest denoms possible. Less counting. Less verifying the chip count on each bet. Easier to figure out visually what each person's stacks are. More room on the table to look at your hand. etc. etc.

By the time the break rolls around people are begging for a colour up.

I think starting stacks of 20-30 chips is ideal.
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Re: 22 person T10000 breakdown -

I agree with Tom here...my T-mold set is built exactly for a 22-max, 8-13-5-6-(2) breakdown for T10K (T20K) and works quite well.

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We usually start with 8/13/7/5 and have been happy with that. (But I'm thinking of trying 8/13/5/6 next time for a few more $1000s, as noted above.)
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Re: 22 person T10000 breakdown -

But...but...but..... I really like playing with my chips!

[quote=cdnmoose;751015]In our area I would say the opinion is the exact opposite. Nobody likes having to bet stacks of 20. They want to throw out the largest denoms possible. Less counting. Less verifying the chip count on each bet. Easier to figure out visually what each person's stacks are. More room on the table to look at your hand. etc. etc.
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Re: 22 person T10000 breakdown -

I use 8/8/6/6. But I could see starting with 8/13/5/6. My group does not like a lot of chips in play and would rather make change from each other because we have less 100s in play. Plus, most of the hosts don't have chip sets large enough to start with 13 T100 chips.
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