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600 chip cash set - check my thinking

This is for mainly $.50/1 NL game, for 7 people on average, trying to get a decent amount of chips in play here.

200 - .50
300 - 1
80 - 5
20 - 25

To start:
20 - .50 - $10
40 - 1 - $40
10 - 5 - $50

For rebuys I figure using the starting stack setup until I run out, and then using $25 for change outs on the table. Does this seem reasonable for 6-7 people and getting a decent amount of chips out on the table?
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Re: 600 chip cash set - check my thinking

I'm also thinking of changing the .50 to a .25 so it's a more versatile set. Thoughts on changing 200 .50 to 300 .25?
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Re: 600 chip cash set - check my thinking

I was just going to post that about using the Quarters rather than .50s but you beat me to it. Either way looks like a pretty nice setup! $100 buy in nice game too. Whats the most you ever won at the game?
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Re: 600 chip cash set - check my thinking

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I'm also thinking of changing the .50 to a .25 so it's a more versatile set. Thoughts on changing 200 .50 to 300 .25?
Using quarters definitely makes the set more versatile but gives you less bank. Will you ever need $.25 chips? If not I say go with $.50 chips. You will have a few less chips in play but more $ for the same amount of chips.

The only other thing to consider is what your players are used to. I tried advocating a $.50 value on a non-denom chip for a $.50/$1 game and the players kept getting confused and put 2 chips out for the SB (of course the issue was the non denom chip)

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Re: 600 chip cash set - check my thinking

A few comments, worth 2¢ apiece I'm sure:

- Don't go to 25¢ chips if you're going to always be playing 50¢/$1. But if you sometimes will be having a 25¢/50¢ game, then I agree you should go to only 25¢ chips. (Or do what I did -- 1 have 25¢ and 50¢ chips, but they never get used at the same time. Unfortunately, that means one denom is always out of play.)

- Don't buy as many small chips, either 25¢ or 50¢. You don't need nearly that many. We get by with 100 small chips for a 10-player game all the time. It's just a waste of money IMO to buy that many chips. The players always bet with the larger chips in NL games. So get only 100 x 50¢ or 100-200 x 25¢ chips, and spend your money on the larger denoms. Otherwise you have big stacks of useless small chips on the table -- falling over, ignored most of the time, wasting time to count 'em for all-ins, etc. You get "more bank for your buck" when you buy more middle and large denoms and not so many useless small guys.

- A better starting stack is 10/40/11 for 50/1, instead of 20/40/10.
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- Don't buy as many small chips, either 25¢ or 50¢. You don't need nearly that many. We get by with 100 small chips for a 10-player game all the time. It's just a waste of money IMO to buy that many chips. The players always bet with the larger chips in NL games. So get only 100 x 50¢ or 100-200 x 25¢ chips, and spend your money on the larger denoms. Otherwise you have big stacks of useless small chips on the table -- falling over, ignored most of the time, wasting time to count 'em for all-ins, etc. You get "more bank for your buck" when you buy more middle and large denoms and not so many useless small guys.

- A better starting stack is 10/40/11 for 50/1, instead of 20/40/10.
I will have to second the advise above. When I put my breakdown on my Black Sands cash set I did this as well. There was a non-denom and I use it as a $0.10 and I only went with a full rack and I was worried about not having enough. Boy was I wrong it went excatly as Tom stated above, they are used for SB & BB and nothing after that. So go small on the lower denoms and go more on the higher ones. You wont be disappointed...
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Re: 600 chip cash set - check my thinking

I like the versatility of the .25 chip, but only if you play .25/.50 games. I just ordered a 500 chip 44mm set for my cash game in the following breakdown:

120 x .25
150 x 1
170 x 5
40 x 25
20 x 100

I got so many 100's simply b/c I liked the black chip I designed.

My problem is that I have two distinct groups that I play poker with - Group A is a bunch of good guys that run one-income households with multiple children; and living ing the Chicago suburbs, this leaves them little disposable income to lose to me at the poker table - thus a .25/.50 game is perfect for Group A. This group likes to buy in for $25 and play all night if possible. These game are more about comradery than anything else.

Group B is a group of (generally) professionals and small business owners who are securely in the upper middle class and can afford to drop $100 or more a couple times a month on poker. Group B will likely play 1/2 or 2/5 games on a regular basis.

At the end of the day, there is no perfect answer. As long as people are playing poker, I'm happy.
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Re: 600 chip cash set - check my thinking

It really comes down to what type game you play more of. If you strictly play .50/1 by all means the 50c is the way to go. If you play a mix of .25/.50 and .50/1 I would lean more towards all .25s for that extra flexibility. Because chances are if your playing .25/.50 most of the time your not going to be using both a 25c and a 50c in the same game.

Some good advice so far I am taking notes too!
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Re: 600 chip cash set - check my thinking

Thanks for all the advice guys. In our core group the $100 is about as heavy as we go for friendly play. We don't play too many small games, but I could probably host more games on the side with a different group (less experienced friends) that don't want to pony up the $100 to play and would rather play for $20-40. It's these smaller games that I can host that gets me thinking about the $.25 chips.

Also, there's a smaller group of us that play a really weird game we like to call...Bonedoneskis... (not for the faint of heart), which puts a lot of $.50 and $1 chips in play.

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- Don't buy as many small chips, either 25¢ or 50¢. You don't need nearly that many. We get by with 100 small chips for a 10-player game all the time. It's just a waste of money IMO to buy that many chips. The players always bet with the larger chips in NL games. So get only 100 x 50¢ or 100-200 x 25¢ chips, and spend your money on the larger denoms. Otherwise you have big stacks of useless small chips on the table -- falling over, ignored most of the time, wasting time to count 'em for all-ins, etc. You get "more bank for your buck" when you buy more middle and large denoms and not so many useless small guys.
This is great advice...I don't know why I didn't put this together. I had thought about the 10/40/55, but didn't think to just order fewer chips for some reason



So I'm thinking I should go with:
150 x .50
330 x 1
100 x 5
20 x 25

and start with:
10 x .50
40 x 1
11 x 5

And then I could just order a bunch of quarters on a separate bill when I see if I can get the smaller game together on a regular basis...
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I was just going to post that about using the Quarters rather than .50s but you beat me to it. Either way looks like a pretty nice setup! $100 buy in nice game too. Whats the most you ever won at the game?
Whoever's running good gets the high score of ~200 profit on the night. It's a friendly/competitive game, but it's deepstacked and there's a lot of wiggle room (no one likes to get stacked...so it creates a lot of opportunities for an action player like me to pick off the dead pots ).

Unfortunately the game has kind of fallen apart in the past year, but I feel a strong resurgence this year! We all play in another, more populous game (tournaments) every three weeks, so getting the core group together for these games again shouldn't pose too big of a problem
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