[muffins]

Hi all,

I'm getting a 1000 chip set shortly and thought I'd throw it out there to see if this breakdown seems logical. Most of the time I have T1500-T2000 tournaments with 5-8 players. However I would like to be able to have the odd 5/10 ring game or maybe stretch to a 2-3 table tourney if I can ever find the players. Here's what I've come up with:

5 x 175
25 x 200
50 x 300
100 x 200
500 x 50
1K x 25
5K x 25
10K x 25
Would you make any changes? (I think it's unlikely I'll ever need the 5 or 10K chips but just want a few to round out the collection)

[hod]

I'd scrap the 50s straight off the bat - unless that is a common chip in your cash games, you seem to have a lot of them there too. Some 20s may be better for that, and get more higher denoms.

[muffins]

Really? I see the 50s being the most commonly used of all. Starting blinds are 25-50 in my tournaments (which is what we play most) so I assume they will see a lot of use. I wouild get some 20s but they don't have any in the set I'm looking at.

[Chiproll]

I might be a bit confused, here but i agree with the other poster, no need for 50's. I also would scrap the 10k in favor of 25k. If the blinds start at 25-50 then why get 5's at all?? anyways you asked so i offered:

200 x 5
250 x 25
250 x 100
150 x 500
100 x 1000
25 x 5000
25 x 25000

Might as well do big stacks for your smaller tourneys and smaller stacks for bigger tourneys (easily 30+ if you do 5x5,7x25,8x100,2x500). I also like the fact you can color up to all 1000's for larger tourneys (or just do 10k for your smaller ones).

[smoore]

I also agree with ditching the 50's. Two 25's do the job. You'll find most (not all) CT'ers are of this mindset.

The way I work out tournament breakdowns is:

1) Determine blind structure. This will show you your "workhorse" chip.
2) Determine starting stacks.
3) Determine rebuy stacks.
4) Arithmetic shows us what we need to color up. I color up two "jumps". i.e. to color 25's I figure it in 500's.

Here's mine:
T3000 w/rebuys *should* last about 8 hrs
basic structure:
15/30
25/50
40/80
50/100 (could do 60/120 but this is easier and gets us into 25's)
75/150
100/200
150/300 (end rebuys after this level)
200/400
200/400/25
300/600/25
400/800/50
500/1000/50
800/1600/100 (again, a rounding error to get rid of 25's)
1000/2000/100
1500/3000/100
2000/4000/200
3000/6000/300
... etc ... (now that we have everything in multiples of 100 it's easy)

Starting stack:
red - $5 * 10 = $50
green - $25 * 18 = $450
black - $100 * 20 = $2000
purple - $500 * 1 = $500

49 chips for $3000 leaving space for a bounty chip in 2x25 or half of a 4x25 chip box. One chip box = two starting stacks. Four chip boxes = full table of 8 players.

Rebuy stacks:
Here I have some leeway because my tournament set is faux clay and I have quite a few:

BUSTO stack (I think I have 8 of these, don't remember):
green - $25 * 16 = $400
black - $100 * 6 = $600
purple - $500 * 2 = $1000
blue - $1000 * 1 = $1000

Extra rebuy (rebuy anytime you have T3000 or less):
blue - $1000 *3 = $3000

Once the BUSTO boxes are gone, 6 purple get the job done.

Now, since I just have a lot of chips I didn't have to figure out how many rebuys I'd like to have, suffice it to say I have HUNDEREDS

Color up (max 24 players):
red - $50 * 24 = 1200 = 12 black chips
green - $450 * 24 + $400 * 8 = $14000 = 28 purple chips
black - $2000 * 24 + $600 * 8 = $52,800 = 53 blue chips

I also have 25 orange for $5000 and 10 gray for $25,000 (NERD!). Like I said, I have LOTS of rebuys, I can accommodate tables full of rebuy mania.

This isn't intended for you to copy directly (although that's fine, I don't mind) but instead it's to show the thought process and the math that will help you work out your perfect tournament set.

FWIW, I haven't played with this breakdown yet, I used to do a T5000 with blinds starting at 25/50. I added the $5 denomination because I thought there wasn't enough play during the rebuy period. I want lots of play (cheap flops) while the playin' is good. I want to encourage rebuys to get lots of chips on the table. mmmmm, chips.

GL and if you made it through this novel congratulations.

[dad604]

I think that you have too many denoms for 1000 chipset. I would scrape the $50 as others have posted here. Also I would get rid of the 5k and 10K chips, unless you like high values then lose the $5 chip.

[muffins]

Thanks for all the advice!