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Old 05-11-2007, 05:23 PM
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Suggest a Chip Breakdown, please...

I am helping a friend set and run a charity tournament. We will likely have a sponser for the chips (faux clays, labeled) and maybe the cards and the sponsor will get to keep the chips. There should be around 100 players and we would like to start each with T2000. We would like it to last around 6 to 6.5 hours. Can you please help us with how many chips and what breakdown of each we will need? If you have a blind structure that already works well for this I will be glad to see it. Thanks for all your help!

Also, is there somewhere that you can order plastic cards that are printed with your design?
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Old 05-12-2007, 07:47 AM
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Re: Suggest a Chip Breakdown, please...

Ok a few questions:
1. Is this a freeze out or a rebuy tournament?
2. Must it be a T2000 Tournament?
3. What would you like the blinds to start at?
4. Roughly How long would you like the tournament to last?
5. Can your group handle ante's or do you want a pure small blind/big blind schedule?

I can help you out with this but I need those details before we start so as to get a good idea of what the tournament will be like.

Cheers
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:37 AM
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Re: Suggest a Chip Breakdown, please...

I'm assuming no rebuys

For T2000 if you want a decent structure that favors good players instead of just gabmblers you will need to start the blinds at 10-20 (or even 5-10 if you want more early play). I hate T5 chips so I would recommend you to make it a T5,000 or T10,000 tournament.

My favorite breakdown is (per player):

T5000
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12 x 25
12 x 100
3 x 500
2 x 1,000
Total chips in play = 2900
+ 100 additional T5000 chips for coloring up

T10,000
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12 x 25
12 x 100
5 x 500
6 x 1,000
Total chips in play = 3500
+ 200 additional T5000 chips for coloring up

You don't need additional T100 for coloring up the T25, just use a big stack player to get change for a few of the T5000 chips and use that change to color up the T25s. You'll be fine.

IMO this is a very cost-effective setup while still giving the players enough chips to be able to play without having to constantly be asking for change.

For 100 players and 6.5 hours I would recommend going with the T5000 tournament.

I made a quick off the top of my head blinds schedule for your situation.

Download it here:
http://users.onelinkpr.net/agc1976/p...0plyrT5000.xls

Hope it helps... keep in mind you have to add the breaks.
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Re: Suggest a Chip Breakdown, please...

I don't know how to tell you to distribute chips because you didn't say how many of each denomination you had.

T2000 blinds

100 players X 2000 = 200,000 chips in play x 4% = 8,000 (Big blind at end of the game).

10-20
15-30
20-40
30-60
50-100
75-150
100-200
150-300
200-400
300-600
400-800
600-1200
800-1600
1000-2000
1500-3000
2000-4000
3000-6000
4000-8000 <--- should end here
6000-12000

Should last 18 blind levels. 20 minute levels will last 6 hours.

Good luck and hope this helps.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:17 PM
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Re: Suggest a Chip Breakdown, please...

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Ok a few questions:
1. Is this a freeze out or a rebuy tournament?
2. Must it be a T2000 Tournament?
3. What would you like the blinds to start at?
4. Roughly How long would you like the tournament to last?
5. Can your group handle ante's or do you want a pure small blind/big blind schedule?

I can help you out with this but I need those details before we start so as to get a good idea of what the tournament will be like.

Cheers
Ian
It is intended to be a re-buy tournament... re-buys are the majority of the take from the tourney(corporate exemptions allow many to enter for free).
T2000 is intended to make re-buys happen more often. (the idea here is to raise money for the charity) It should last around 6 to 6.5 hours. It would be fine for the blinds to start at 25-50, and no, I don't think that the majority of players could handle antes... thanks for your suggestions.


Koenigsegg, I appreciate your suggestions, and I like them, just not sure that they will work for this tourney!!!
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:32 PM
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Re: Suggest a Chip Breakdown, please...

At Crown Casino they do T2000 MTT like this:

8 x $25
8 x $100
2 x $500

And then just use 2 x $1,000 for re-buys. 100 people would be:

800 x $25
1000 x $100
400 x $500
400 x $1000

to allow lots of re-buys and color ups.
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Re: Suggest a Chip Breakdown, please...

In that case I would go with

Initial buy-in
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12 x $25
12 x $100
1 x $500

Rebuys
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2 x $500
1 x $1000

Let me know the estimated number of buy-ins (including rebuys) to try to make a good schedule for your situation. (or you can use the spreadsheet yourself...) I use it for my weekly tournaments and find it quite accurate... Just be sure to make the first levels longer and the later levels shorter and more agressive steps between them if needed to avoid too long of a tournament.


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Re: Suggest a Chip Breakdown, please...

btw, the 8x25, 8x100, 2x500 is IMHO the EL CHEAPO way of doing it... saving a lot of money in chips, but sacrificing game play by constantly having players betting $300 using the $500 chip... Personally, I don't like it.
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Re: Suggest a Chip Breakdown, please...

Normally I would agree with you Koenigsegg but with larger tournaments (100 players +) it's better to start with fewer chips, since you always end up with a couple of people with HUGE stacks before the color ups happen and this slows down the game too.
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