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Old 12-28-2006, 01:53 AM
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yet another breakdown question

I'm new to this whole hosting thing--as in, never done it. I'm jumping in with both feet--getting a custom table and custom chips and never even hosted a game. I'm getting a cash set and a tourney set. Cash set will comprise of .05, .25, $1, & $5 chips. The likely buy-in would be $10 - $20. The tourney set will comprise of T25, T100, T500, and T2500. I'll probably have between 8 and 12 players on a regular basis, but would like to accommodate more, when necessary. I'm looking to get around 650 chips in each set. Does this seem like too many? I'm looking for breakdown suggestions. I'm open to suggestions for starting tourney stack amounts and all those various important things. Tourney re-buys would be a possibility. If I'm correct, without re-buys, I don't need near 650 chips. Is that right.

I know there's a lot of breakdown threads. And I've read through them. But I guess I need help specific to my situation


Basically, I need help...anyone? Please.

Thank you.

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Re: yet another breakdown question

I'll tell you my breakdown which works well for the games I host.
My home games run from 6 to 9 people but I think I could support more with some adjustments in starting stacks.

for tourneys I have the following: 500 total

$25 x 100
$100 x 200
$500 x 150
$1000 x 50

Starting stacks of
$25 x 8
$100 x 13
$500 x 4
$1000 x 0

I like to run the cash games as limit or pot limit
like a casino $4 - $8 game, since $4 - $8 is pretty steep for my friends and me we do a scaled down version, basically 10%.

Cash game chips:

10˘ x 400
$1 x 100
$5 x 25

for the cash game we do $10 buy-ins which gets you a half rack of dimes and five $1 chips.

for more or less than eight players I vary the starting stacks, always trying to get as many 10˘ chips in play as possible.

It's hard to tell what might work for you since you haven't hosted yet.
When I first started going to home games they played a funk spread cash game with 5˘ - 25˘ bets and caps of 5 times the big blind, and escalating blinds (like a tourney).
For that game we used a tournament type setup with the divide by 100 method ($5 became nickels, $100 were a buck) we all started with $20 aka $2000 in chips.
The big benefit is you only need one set to support both games.
Obviously I prefer having a dedicated set for tournament s and one for cash games.

Hope this helps to get you started,
Good Luck
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Re: yet another breakdown question

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Originally Posted by Jonah 99
I'll tell you my breakdown which works well for the games I host.
My home games run from 6 to 9 people but I think I could support more with some adjustments in starting stacks.

for tourneys I have the following: 500 total

$25 x 100
$100 x 200
$500 x 150
$1000 x 50

Starting stacks of
$25 x 8
$100 x 13
$500 x 4
$1000 x 0

I like to run the cash games as limit or pot limit
like a casino $4 - $8 game, since $4 - $8 is pretty steep for my friends and me we do a scaled down version, basically 10%.

Cash game chips:

10˘ x 400
$1 x 100
$5 x 25

for the cash game we do $10 buy-ins which gets you a half rack of dimes and five $1 chips.

for more or less than eight players I vary the starting stacks, always trying to get as many 10˘ chips in play as possible.

It's hard to tell what might work for you since you haven't hosted yet.
When I first started going to home games they played a funk spread cash game with 5˘ - 25˘ bets and caps of 5 times the big blind, and escalating blinds (like a tourney).
For that game we used a tournament type setup with the divide by 100 method ($5 became nickels, $100 were a buck) we all started with $20 aka $2000 in chips.
The big benefit is you only need one set to support both games.
Obviously I prefer having a dedicated set for tournament s and one for cash games.

Hope this helps to get you started,
Good Luck
Yes it does. Thank you.

Russ
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Re: yet another breakdown question

I've spent way too much time using the chip calculator from homepokertourney.com. Basically I came up with the "ultimate formula" (for my standards anyways). I was able to break down the formula alotment per six players. This was designed to be economic and rack friendly and not have too many of the lower denoms that become obsolete as the tourney progresses. What I came up with was the following:

per 6 players:

T5 x 40
T25 x 60
T100 x 80
T500 x 20 (or 40+ to allow full color up and rebuys)

this set up was designed for hosting any size tournament and maximizing chip values. This is what i will use when i have the funds to start a new set (as it will allow me to purchase in increments of 200 chips over time). At 200 chips per six players this is the best I can do allowing for some extra chips and still have a highly functional set. Any modification done (to the breakdown) would be to the highest denomination (or adding another) to allow for the rebuys and color up of 100's, which shouldn't be necessary, especially if you use antes.

Also I noticed you wanted T2500, but for my recommendation a T2000 chip would be the better choice (as this is the suggested starting stack value).

T2000 starting stacks:

T5 x 5
T25 x 7
T100 x 8
T500 x 2

22 chips=T2000

again because my breakdown is scaleable, the blinds are designed for just about any sized tourney and the minutes per level is experimental depending on how fast you need it to end (10 mins up to 30 mins for a marathon):

ante/sb/bb/
0/5/10
0/10/20
0/15/30
color up 5's
0/25/50
0/50/100
0/75/150
0/100/200
25/100/200
25/150/300
50/250/500
75/350/700
100/500/1000
150/750/1500
color up 25's
200/1000/2000
300/1500/3000
400/2000/4000
shouldnt last this long, but option 100's color up (can divide the remaining T100 chips by 5 and call them all T500 chips)
500/2500/5000
1000/5000/10000
1500/7500/15000
2000/10000/20000....

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Thank you Chiproll. Sorry I didn't respond sooner.
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