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07-25-2006, 10:08 PM
| | ChipTalk Tournament Advisor | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Team Hephaestus
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Chips: 6,850 | | | HELP!! -- I have no idea of Matsui GB set breakdown I have absolutely no idea what to do, so I turn to the collective wisdom of CT.
I absolutely love the Matsui GB design and had planned on buying a set of 500-600 chips plus plaques. My problem is two-fold -- most important at this point is money. I have had a sudden huge financial problem, and I really can't see spending any money on more chips.
Which is the second problem -- I have absolutely no need for another chip set. I have a very big set of NCV Pharaohs (over 1000) that could do for cash games or tournaments. I also have a perfect low-stakes cash game set of around 700 Samurais. Not to mention about 1000 of the Engdahls that could serve either cash or tournament. And I NEVER play with any of these sets, and I don't see that changing in the near future. So what is the point of getting another set that I won't use?
But this is CT after all, so I still want to get the Matsuis (and I am not about to sell any of my other sets) even though I have no money and no need for them. And, of course, I don't expect anyone here to try and talk me out buying the chips!
My problem is that I have no idea which of the Matsuis to buy. My only idea was that since I already have at least two cash game sets and since the Matsuis will have the cool plaques and the oversized 500/1000, I should get a tournament set with large denoms for a single-table tournament with big stacks (like 10,000 starting stacks or something). But of course the plaques and oversized chips are more expensive....
Anyway, I shouldn't spend anything at all, but I will probably be stupid enough to spend up to $400 (but I would much prefer to spend less).
Anyone have any suggestions? | 
07-25-2006, 10:15 PM
|  | World Series Final Table | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NC
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Chips: 3,049 | | | Re: HELP!! -- I have no idea of Matsui GB set breakdown Don't know how many players you'll have but for a 8 or 9-player T10,000
20 x T100
10 x T500
3 x T1,000
200 hundreds, 100 fivehundreds, 50 thousands. Not sure right away how much this would cost but would be a nice one-table setup. | 
07-26-2006, 12:01 PM
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Chips: 6,040 | | | Re: HELP!! -- I have no idea of Matsui GB set breakdown 10 person 15,000 starting stacks
25- 100's (250)
5 - 500's (50)
5 - 1000's (50)
1 - 5000 (10)
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07-26-2006, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by joshuadalton 10 person 15,000 starting stacks
25- 100's (250)
5 - 500's (50)
5 - 1000's (50)
1 - 5000 (10) | Too many 100's IMHO.
I'm one of the folks that adheres to only a few of the lowest denom and more of the 2nd and 3rd denom; I'd say max 10 x 100 per player. Assuming you are starting with 100/200 blinds, most bets/raises will be over 500 so more 500's are better than more 100's. Even if blinds start at 100/100, a lot of bets/raises will be 500+ especially after the 1st round..
T15k
10 x 100
10 x 500
4 x 1000
1 x 5000
Set includes 320 chips for a 10 person tourney for T10k - T20k.
100 x 100
120 x 500 - color up all 100's
100 x 1k - color up all 500's
20 x 5k | 
07-26-2006, 12:21 PM
| | ChipTalk Tournament Advisor | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Team Hephaestus
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Chips: 6,850 | | | Re: HELP!! -- I have no idea of Matsui GB set breakdown Thanks guys. Part of the problem is that I don't normally play tournaments (except the CT tournaments), so I had no idea what would be a good set.
And the problem with fewer 100s and more 500s is that the 500s are pricier because they are oversized. (Not to mention that the 100s are much prettier!) But I totally understand hachkc's point: if you start with blinds around 100, of course you will need more 500s than 100s.
What if you made the blinds smaller to start and threw the 25s in the mix? I assume that would make the 100s the primary denom needed, but again, I have never really set up a tournament, so I have no idea... | 
07-26-2006, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hachkc Too many 100's IMHO.
I'm one of the folks that adheres to only a few of the lowest denom and more of the 2nd and 3rd denom; I'd say max 10 x 100 per player. Assuming you are starting with 100/200 blinds, most bets/raises will be over 500 so more 500's are better than more 100's. Even if blinds start at 100/100, a lot of bets/raises will be 500+ especially after the 1st round..
T15k
10 x 100
10 x 500
4 x 1000
1 x 5000
Set includes 320 chips for a 10 person tourney for T10k - T20k.
100 x 100
120 x 500 - color up all 100's
100 x 1k - color up all 500's
20 x 5k | I'd say this last set is perfect for her. | 
07-26-2006, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bolgenmod Thanks guys. Part of the problem is that I don't normally play tournaments (except the CT tournaments), so I had no idea what would be a good set.
And the problem with fewer 100s and more 500s is that the 500s are pricier because they are oversized. (Not to mention that the 100s are much prettier!) But I totally understand hachkc's point: if you start with blinds around 100, of course you will need more 500s than 100s.
What if you made the blinds smaller to start and threw the 25s in the mix? I assume that would make the 100s the primary denom needed, but again, I have never really set up a tournament, so I have no idea... | 120/150/180/10 is recommended by the chiptalk calculator. You could try buying more $1000s and fewer $500s. | 
07-26-2006, 12:49 PM
|  | Big Stack | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA
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Chips: 2,017 | | | Re: HELP!! -- I have no idea of Matsui GB set breakdown Why don't you sell some of your other chips so you can justify the matsui buy? If you don't want to part with your Pharaohs, sell half. You say you don't use them anyway.
For a 10 player setup, I suggest T5000:
$25 x 12 ....120
$100 x 12 ....150 (enough to color up $25)
$500 x 3 ......30
$1k x 2 .......20
If you like the plaques, get about 5 for rebuys (should be enough for 1 rebuy per tourney)
320 chips. You could even use them a cash set dividing by 100 for 25¢, $1, $5, $10.
Hope this helps. | 
07-26-2006, 12:55 PM
| | ChipTalk Tournament Advisor | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Team Hephaestus
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Chips: 6,850 | | | Re: HELP!! -- I have no idea of Matsui GB set breakdown The problem with selling my Pharaohs is that there doesn't seem to be much demand for them. And I paid full price (not GB price) for most of them, so I would be taking a big loss even if I could sell them. Not to mention that I love them... | 
07-26-2006, 01:00 PM
|  | Big Stack | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA
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Chips: 2,017 | | | Re: HELP!! -- I have no idea of Matsui GB set breakdown okay....how about the samurais then? You should be able to sell half of those for at least what you paid. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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