[Mok]

I'm excited. I've got the money to buy /around/ 900 chips (could go 1k I suppose, but would rather keep around 900, so I have 100 spaces for all my specialty chips in the birdcage I'll also buy). I've got /around/ 4 days to come up with my breakdown to submit my order. I'd rather do it sooner rather than later though.

I'm not expecting more than 10, average 6, and will never have more than 15 guys, and my thoughts are that maybe I'll break this into 2 sets. About 700 (or so) for an ultra-high tourney set, with stacks in the 40+ range (my guys are chip-hoarders), and the remaining for the really low denoms as a cash-game set if we ever feel the need to do that too.

Using CaptLego's great online Calculator - I've come up with this:
Maybe this T250,000
1,000 / 200
5,000 / 240 (40 as color-up)
10,000 / 250 (120 as color-up)
690 total chips with each player having 20, 20, 13.

My problem with that is if 10 people are there that day, at heads-up, the 2 other higher denoms aren't there.

I haven't been able to tweak it more to keep in the 700 total /range/ (could go 750 I suppose) with starting of 40+ chips.

The other cash set, I'm thinking of using the 25 (as the quarter), NVC (as $1), and 5 (as $5). This portion of the whole set doesn't have to be comprised of much, and if it does I'll just buy some customs from somewhere instead of using these (or modify the denoms and use the tourney set as cash, if that many folks want to play cash instead). The idea is to make sure I never repeat the denoms, so if 2 games are going on, there is absolutely no confusion, ever. (we all know drunks, right?)

Initially I'm thinking of
25 / 200
NVC / 100
5 / 50
Works out to $20 buy-ins, with 31 chips per person (told you they were whorders (misspelled on purpose)) of 20, 10, and 1.

That's 350, which I think is too many.

So, this is where the great CT community comes in, asking for help here. I've looked through a lot of threads here, and one that seemed interesting is Tomb1 with a 700 chip breakdown for his "HALF A MEEEEELLION DOLLAR TOURNAMENT" Only problem with it, is the starting stacks are /only/ 32... But, everything else fits ok, and if I have to force my guys into something like that, so be it.

Originally Posted by Tomb1

100 x $1,000
200 x $5,000
200 x $10,000
120 x $25,000
80 x $100,000
Total 700 chips

HALF A MEEEEELLION DOLLAR TOURNAMENT:

5 x $1,000
9 x $5,000
10 x $10,000
6 x $25,000
2 x $100,000
32 chips to start (up to 20 players/rebuys)

[Jambine]

If I understand your situation, I think this would work with a set of 980 chips (I know that's more than you wanted).

T-250,000 for 15 people with exactly enough to color up at each level (no re-buys)
225 x 1,000.00 - 15 chips each
270 x 5,000.00 - 15 chips each
135 x 10,000.00 - 16 chips each


Cash set for 10 players. Buy in $20 with enough for a re-buy of $20
200 x 0.25 - 20 chips each
100 x 1.00 - 10 chips each
50 x 5.00 - 1 chip each

[mac40k]

How about this?

Starting stacks for 15 players:
15 x $1k = 225 chips
15 x $5k = 225 chips
6 x $10k = 90 chips
4 x $25k = 60 chips
Each player starts with $250k/40 chips and you need 600 chips total for 15 players.

You get more 10k and 25k chips for the extra 100 chips you plan to buy. All your 1k and 5k chips are in play from the get go with a full 15, but don't worry about not having extra 5k chips for color up. Color up as many 1k chips directly to 10k as possible, then use the extra 25k chips to buy back 5k chips from the chip leader(s) and use those to complete color up. If you plan to color up the 5k too at some point, lean towards more 25k and less 10k extras.

[Mok]

Jambine's cash set breakdown was very close to what I envisioned initially. I also came up with some other ideas in the interim... Since I'm not expecting the max 15 players to be in the sidegame, I'm setting this as 10 players, if we do 15, we'll not have the tourney and "rename" the denominations to make the tourney set work for cash.

#3 Cash Set:
16 chips x .25 = $4.00 (10 x 16 = 160)
11 chips x 1.00 = $11.00 (10 x 11 = 110)
1 chips x 5.00 = $5.00 (10 x 1 = 10)
280 Total chips, fill out 20 more $5 chips for 300 chips making 5 rebuys. Not quite enough…. That works out to starting with 28 chips per player starting, but not doable with only half the people able to rebuy.

#4 Cash Set:
12 chips x .25 = $3.00 (10 x 12 = 120)
12 chips x 1.00 = $12.00 (10 x 12 = 120)
1 chips x 5.00 = $5.00 (10 x 1 = 10)
250 Total chips, fill out 40 more $5 chips for 290 chips making 10 full rebuys. Just barely enough. That works out to 25 chips per player starting.


I think the #4 way may be the way to go. Only 25 chips, but if only 8 people want to buy-in, that can be adjusted too for more chips.


As for the tourney, I like mac40k setup here, and think it works well. May go with that. I'm not SOLD on the T250,000 so any other higher would work as well, the T250,000 was just one I was playing with in the calculator... That would be what, 990 total chips, could fill out the extra 10 for an even 1k with some of the others so I have at least 1 of each chip.....

I'm still WAY open for suggestions.

[Jambine]

I fine tuned the tourney set and came up with this for an 866 chip set. You could throw in some extra $25,000 chips and have enough for a few re-buys.

150 x 1,000.00 - 10 chips each
180 x 5,000.00 - 10 chips each
90 x 10,000.00 - 9 chips each
96 x 25,000.00 - 4 chips each

Cash same as above

[tomb1]

Glad to help with my HALF MEEELLION tourney idea. But if you want bigger chip stacks (40+) and 15 players, it'll be tough to stick with 700 chips -- 50 chips x 15 players is 750 already, without color-ups.

However . . . I tweaked a little bit and came up with this. You still have T$500,000 and get a starting stack of 43 chips. You can color up all the $1Ks into $5Ks, then get rid of the $5Ks into $25K/$100K later in the game. You can keep the $10Ks on the table to have huge stacks at the end, or color them up, too. I put some extra high denoms into the set for color ups, so you could actually get by with just under 700 if you wanted.

OK, for 14 players buy:

70 x $1,000
200 x $5,000
260 x $10,000
130 x $25,000
40 x $100,000
Total 700 chips.

Start with:

5 x $1,000
13 x $5,000
18 x $10,000
6 x $25,000
1 x $100,000
Big-a$$ total of 43 chips each.

Good luck!

[Mok]

Thanks for the input Tomb1...

Was doing some more playing... (yeah, think I should be working, instead of thinking about my breakdown? Me too. sickness, it has me.)

#5 Tourney Set:
T-250,000 (set for 10 players only, if I get 15, then knocking it down to T-100,000 should work “okay”)
20 chips x 1,000 = 20,000 (10 x 20 = 200)
16 chips x 5,000 = 80,000 (10 x 16 = 160 + 40color-up = 200)
10 chips x 10,000 = 100,000 (10 x 10 = 100 + 100color-up = 200)
2 chips x 25,000 = 50,000 (10 x 2 = 20 + 20rebuy + 80color-up = 120)
0 chips x 100,000 = 0 (20rebuy + 30color-up = 50)
770 Total chips, 48 chips per player. Without coloring up, there’d be 4 colors in play, for 480 chips on the table, quite a bit excessive when you get to heads-up. So, I think the color-ups would work out just fine here.

I could get away without doing the color-up of the last two denoms, and save quite a few chips though… Down to 660 chips (200 / 200 / 200 / 40 / 20) but I’m afraid that doing so may cripple my T-100,000 if I have to do that for 15 people.

Thoughts on this setup?

Is my thought-process sound?

If I drop it to the 660, would that cripple me for the 15 person T-100,000 setup (if I /get/ 15 guys in the bunker)? Also, if I don’t do the color-ups, everyone think there would be too many chips on the table (too hard to manage)?


I'm a flip-flopper, and can easily change my mind on a moments notice with this buy..... Heck, I may go with one of you guys' suggestions, because those are all great too!

[Jambine]

Originally Posted by Mok

........I could get away without doing the color-up of the last two denoms, and save quite a few chips though… Down to 660 chips (200 / 200 / 200 / 40 / 20) but I’m afraid that doing so may cripple my T-100,000 if I have to do that for 15 people.

Thoughts on this setup?

This 660 chip set will cover a T-100,000 for 15 players with exactly enough to color up.

300 x 1,000.00 – 20 chips each
210 x 5,000.00 - 10 chips each
150 x 10,000.00 - 3 chips each

[Mok]

Okay. It is official. Or will be when I submit my order tonight, and if I don’t get feedback that this breakdown will not work for some reason…. Based on the suggestions, and ideas from this thread (confused enough just here, didn’t need to freak myself out with all the other threads too) Here is what I’m going with.

The 660 Chip breakdown, as in the #5 Tourney Set – without all the extra color-up options, and get that to work as the 10 person T-250,000 described there, as well as this 15 person T-100,000 here:
1,000 / 10 = 150
5,000 / 11 = 165 + 30color-up = 195
10,000 / 6 = 90 + 98color-up = 188
25,000 / 1 = 15
Granted, that only gives the players 28 chips in this setup, but sacrifices need to be made, and if it grows to 15 people, the payout growth should help my players see the light. And if they gripe, they’re more than welcome to buy a set themselves! In fact, I encourage that!

So those numbers fit in with the Tourney set. I could probably get away with other combinations, but thanks to everyone’s suggestions here, I think I have a solid setup for the tournament games I’m expecting (and also hoping for). How through provoking are these great people here?

I think I’ll leave my cash game set #4 as is, with 290 chips. That would put my order at 950 chips, and only 2 denominations I hadn’t ordered (100 and 500). If I get 10 of each of those, I’d have 30 more chips to spread around my cash set to help fill that out a tad more (and reach the 1,000 chip point, which was my actual goal-not-to-exceed). That would leave 20-50 spaces open in the racks for specialty chips depending on if I leave all the cash extras in the rack when I take the set to other locations or not.

Again, thanks to everyone. This can not be stressed enough, without such a great sounding board, I'd have never have gotten this far, let alone to a point where I'm ready to pull the trigger.

[Jambine]

Hey, that works. And leaves you some room to play around with the cash set.