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600 Chips 25/100/500/1000 ????

I'm thinking about getting 600 of the hotstamped Kings Crown chips and need some advise on the starting stacks for a 600 chip set. I would like this set to be for a max of 10 people w/ color up chips if possible. Any help is appreciated.
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Re: 600 Chips 25/100/500/1000 ????

Those are great denominbatiopns for a tournament. Buying 600 chips will support a nice 20-person tourney. If you normally have 10 people, you can give out some huge stacks and have a big a$$ tourney if you want.

A basic setup for those chip denoms -- for the max # of players -- is this:
8 x $25
13 x $100
3 x $500
2 x $1000
Decent stack of 26 chips for T$5,000 each (100 x BB)

A big-stack tourney if you have lots of chips could be something like:
8 x $25
23 x $100
7 x $500
4 x $1000
Big stack of 42 chips for T$10,000 (200 x BB)

If you buy 160 / 300 / 80 / 60 you'll be covered for either of these setups. This could also be a killer cash set if you divide by 100.
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Re: 600 Chips 25/100/500/1000 ????

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Those are great denominbatiopns for a tournament. Buying 600 chips will support a nice 20-person tourney. If you normally have 10 people, you can give out some huge stacks and have a big a$$ tourney if you want.

A basic setup for those chip denoms -- for the max # of players -- is this:
8 x $25
13 x $100
3 x $500
2 x $1000
Decent stack of 26 chips for T$5,000 each (100 x BB)

A big-stack tourney if you have lots of chips could be something like:
8 x $25
23 x $100
7 x $500
4 x $1000
Big stack of 42 chips for T$10,000 (200 x BB)

If you buy 160 / 300 / 80 / 60 you'll be covered for either of these setups. This could also be a killer cash set if you divide by 100.

You just can't argue with logic like that.
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Re: 600 Chips 25/100/500/1000 ????

I am really happy with the onetable setup we had been playing in my poker club which wrapped up about a month ago. It was

20 T25
15 T100
6 T500
5 T1,000

46 chips worth T10,000, very fun to start with the big stacks

200 greens, 200 blacks, 100 purples, 100 yellows or whatever colors you want to get, you could color up all the chips in a 10-man game until you had all yellows in play if you wanted to.
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Re: 600 Chips 25/100/500/1000 ????

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Those are great denominbatiopns for a tournament. Buying 600 chips will support a nice 20-person tourney. If you normally have 10 people, you can give out some huge stacks and have a big a$$ tourney if you want.

A basic setup for those chip denoms -- for the max # of players -- is this:
8 x $25
13 x $100
3 x $500
2 x $1000
Decent stack of 26 chips for T$5,000 each (100 x BB)

A big-stack tourney if you have lots of chips could be something like:
8 x $25
23 x $100
7 x $500
4 x $1000
Big stack of 42 chips for T$10,000 (200 x BB)

If you buy 160 / 300 / 80 / 60 you'll be covered for either of these setups. This could also be a killer cash set if you divide by 100.
I've never seen a setup like this where you get fewer $25s than $100s. It that a common way to do it and if so how does it work out? What do the blinds look like?
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Re: 600 Chips 25/100/500/1000 ????

12 greens minimum as far as I'm concerned. I like 16 but no less than 12.

8 just doesnt cut it - you'll see people making change all the way to the colour-up levels.
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I've never seen a setup like this where you get fewer $25s than $100s. It that a common way to do it and if so how does it work out? What do the blinds look like?
OK -- my idea is for No Limit only, not Cash or Limit games.

What you see depends on where you play. I see lots of tourneys that start out loaded with the smallest denom chip, and I see lots of people whose chipset looks like 300/150/100/50 or something like that.

But I have been a proponent of (1) fewer of your smallest chips to start, and (2) more of your middle chips as your workhorse. We moved to this after playing lots of games the traditional way. But what really made up my mind was when I was looking to buy some expensive Paulson chips and I wanted to get the most players for my chip set. The blinds still start out 25/50.

What we found -- and your group may not feel this way or care at all -- was that starting with lots of $25s looked good at first 'cause you have a big stack in front of you. But after only a short while, everybody is using their $100s for most of the betting and raising. Then you either ignore your greens or waste time counting out big stack of greens just to make a mediuum size raise.

Then you color up the greens and you have a couple hundred very expensive chips that sit out for 80% of the tournament's time. I didn't want to waste that money. If you buy something like 160/300/80/60 you can handle many more players for the same 600 chips.

So we started using a smaller number of greens and what we saw was that those chips just got used for blinds and limps, but most of the real action used the black chips and above. And yes, once in a while you have to make change with the guy next to you if he's just won a hand with lots of limpers and you used your little chips up. But that's minor to us.

I always use either fewer greens than blacks or (at worst case) the same number of greens and blacks. I just don't like using lots of greens compared to blacks since it's a waste of valuable chip-buying funds! For about $600 you can suport 10-11 players if you use big stacks of greens, or support 20 players if you use more blacks.

I'm certainly not saying that I'm right or my way is perfect. All I can say is try a couple of different ways and see what works for your group.
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Re: 600 Chips 25/100/500/1000 ????

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OK -- my idea is for No Limit only, not Cash or Limit games.......
Still, you could use them for cash. Just call the $25, $100 & $500 chips $0.25, $1.00, $5.00
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Re: 600 Chips 25/100/500/1000 ????

I have a set of around 600 chips as well and have 25/100/500 denoms only; this setup has worked great for tournaments up to 16. It could support more depending on blinds and such, but 16 is the most I have actually had so far.

We usually start with T1000 (20 X $25, 5 X $100) or T1500 (20 X $25, 10 X $100) and it has worked quite well. The 25's are removed in favour of the 500's later on, but even at the highest blind levels guys will use stacks of 100's for betting so we have never had any use for a chip higher than 500.
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Re: 600 Chips 25/100/500/1000 ????

FWIW my tourney set is 600 and we give out T2000 + rebuys. I went the simple:

200 X 25
200 X 100
100 X 500
100 X 1000

I usually do around 10, can do up to 15 easily, and 20 if I get creative.
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