[Captn_All_In]

Originally Posted by SingleMaltFan

always welcome advice from everyone here..so for that thank you, and keep it coming!! I have learned a tremendous amount in a very short time from this site...

i do understand your points, but i cannot see how the quarters are used only for the blinds..wouldnt your initial bets be 0.50? so if not using 1/2dollars wouldnt you need more quarters/player? and in a limit game you'd need only 50cent bets during the first two betting rounds requiring 2-quarters or 1 -1/2 dollar...unless you made change from your own bets (put in a dollar take back your quarters..which is certainly feasible)

i guess my question is taking these points into consideration...is the set up you suggest enough quarters for play w/o constantly making change?

thanks again...and feel free to tell me if i am thinking about this way too hard..

malt

Hey Malt, I got some time to go back and read this over, I think that if you were going to play .25/.50 Limit the .50 bet would be on the turn and river, you could make the blinds .25/.25, or get .05 or .10 chips to add to the set (but they are not really needed)

Also you asked if you would need more .25 chips to cover the .50, well you don't because the $1 chips will take care of that. If you were playing the limit version, on the turn and river making a raise would mean you put $1 out there, you don't need to put (4) .25 chips. Basically, as long as you had $1 chips you would never need more than (2) .25 chips to make a bet ($1.50, $4.50, etc.)

Hope that helps a little bit. And you know its important to remember....these are your chips, you set the denoms any way you want!!

[SingleMaltFan]

Originally Posted by Captn_All_In

Hey Malt, I got some time to go back and read this over, I think that if you were going to play .25/.50 Limit the .50 bet would be on the turn and river, you could make the blinds .25/.25, or get .05 or .10 chips to add to the set (but they are not really needed)

Also you asked if you would need more .25 chips to cover the .50, well you don't because the $1 chips will take care of that. If you were playing the limit version, on the turn and river making a raise would mean you put $1 out there, you don't need to put (4) .25 chips. Basically, as long as you had $1 chips you would never need more than (2) .25 chips to make a bet ($1.50, $4.50, etc.)

Hope that helps a little bit. And you know its important to remember....these are your chips, you set the denoms any way you want!!

thanks capt...

i guess 25/25 may be a way todo it..nevr thought that way..

i guess my point was you'd need to use 2 .25's for each bet and raise preflop and flop in the limit game and your raises/bets in NL would all be in derrivatives of .50 or 1.00 so if you need 2 x .25 vs 1x .50 for each bet.....see?...thats why i thought you could get a smaller set chip wise, with 3 denoms...just trying not to go broke buying chips...

if each betting round was capped in a limit game, what is the max # of chips a single playing who stayed in to the end would use for that hand, if you had 2 denoms or if you had 3 denoms...?

i guess i want to be able to hand out enough chips toeach player so they don't bust out in two or three hands w/o a rebuy....same for NL cash...

points to ignore or ponder...

back to you

1malt

[Captn_All_In]

Well if you kept the game as a .25/.50 limit, and kept the blinds at .25/.25, the min bet pre-flop and post-flop is .25, on the turn and river it is .50, capping the betting round then would make it .75, pre-flop/post-flop (total of $1.50), and $1.50 on the turn/river ($3.00), so in all a player would need to have $4.50 to play the hand out with max betting each round.

So the easiest [insert cheapest] way to achieve that would be 4- $1 chips and 1- .50 chip, but in the pre/post flop rounds you would need at least one quarter.

So.....you could do this set up with more .50 chips and fewer .25 chips, but I think you would have players making more change between themselves.

Now, if your going to get a 500pc set and you want to give your players a decent sized stack but still keep your cost down I would only get .25/1.00/5.00

**I will be back to finish this**

[SingleMaltFan]

Originally Posted by Captn_All_In

Well if you kept the game as a .25/.50 limit, and kept the blinds at .25/.25, the min bet pre-flop and post-flop is .25, on the turn and river it is .50, capping the betting round then would make it .75, pre-flop/post-flop (total of $1.50), and $1.50 on the turn/river ($3.00), so in all a player would need to have $4.50 to play the hand out with max betting each round.


So the easiest [insert cheapest] way to achieve that would be 4- $1 chips and 1- .50 chip, but in the pre/post flop rounds you would need at least one quarter.

So.....you could do this set up with more .50 chips and fewer .25 chips, but I think you would have players making more change between themselves.

Now, if your going to get a 500pc set and you want to give your players a decent sized stack but still keep your cost down I would only get .25/1.00/5.00

**I will be back to finish this**

this is starting to make sense to me....

a) no warries about making change..
b) no worries about keeping track of whats in the pot with only 2 denoms in play at any given time...
c) in a NL game it would keep the raises to a unit that would be easier to keep track of

if you did traditional .50/1.00 limit (blinds= .25/.50) you'd need $12 per hand if every round was capped and you stayed in to the showdown right? ($4 in quarters and $8 in dollars) assuming cap after 1 bet and three raises.


ok in your limit games..3 raise cap (4 bets total) or 2 raise cap (3 bets total)..casino is 4 total unless heads-up then unlim...

i am starting feel much more comfortable with 2 "working" denoms and one "rebuy" denom"

at most casinos i have played you often use only one denom (exept when the dealer makes you change for your half blind return), but that is not feasible at home only cause you'd have to have quite a large set of chips especially to allow a bank for re-buys, right???

ok so break it down quarter/dollar/fiver for:

500 piece
650 piece
1000 piece

the more clear headed,

1malt

[Captn_All_In]

ahhh...you beat me to it!!


Well if your gonna play $20 buy in I would go with the following breakdowns

500pc
250- .25
225-$1
25- $5

You can give out a stack of 20- $1 or a combo of $1 and $5. If all the chips were in play that would be $412.50....quite a bit for "lower" cash stakes, about $40 each for 10 players. With this kind of a set worst case senario when all the chips are in would be buying chips from another player and keepin the money on the table!

You could also work it like this which may be a bit more functional

500pc
200- .25
250- $1
50-$5

for a total of $550 when all the chips are out and that is $55 per player for 10 players!

For the higher pc sets I would stick close to 200 .25 (20 per player for 10 players) then raise the $1's and $5's accordingly.

Hope this has helped some!

Good luck at your next cash game!!

[SingleMaltFan]

roger that!!

thanks for talkin me down, man..

no seriously tho, thanks to all who responded for their input on this...appreciated..

1malt