[Marmaduk]

I am going to buy a new set of chips very soon, might i add that this forum has been a godsend, and i need help with breakdown.
I am going to buy some nexgens and add my own custom lable.
Here is what i need help with. I was thinking about buying 800 of them and i want to be able to host around a 15person tourney. Possibly up to 20ppl. Since im making my own denoms i want to know how much of each chips i should buy and what denominations i should make.

I was thinking about makeing $25 my lowest denom chip then $100 and from there im not too sure. I like to start ppl off with big stacks maybe T2,000 up to T5,000 and then do maybe one or two colourups throughout the tourney. I'm thinking that a T5000 would be difficult with the $25 chips, maybe just a T2000. Also i prolly would need 1000chips to hold a 20person tourney but the average will be between 10 and 15 anyway.
I was also looking at keeping it simple (KISS) for coulours of chips in play. I didnt really want to give ppl more than 3 diff couloured chips at a time/beginning.

what do you think about haveing a $25, 100, 500, and 1000 chip denomination set? thatway at the end the 500s and 1000s will be in play and maybe a few 100s but deffinately no 25s?

should i go with the 50s instead of the 25s?

how many of each should i make and how many would each person start off with? I heard anywhere between 100 and 200BB. so if 1st stage blinds were 25/25 then 2500-5000 would be good? Im looking for a more relaxed game where ppl will feel they got more play for their buck.

I would really apreciate some help. Thanks a lot for your time.

[Wylecoyo]

I have a setup similar to what you are looking for - 700 chips 225 $25, 225 $100, 125 $500, and 125 $1000 denominations. My weekly game is a T5000 tournament format, which I think would be almost perfect for you based on your description. Each player begins with 20 $25, 20 $100, and 5 $500 for $5000 total each.

An 800 chip setup along these lines would seem to fit your bill - 300 $25, 300 $100, 100 $500, and 100 $1000 - this would give you a straight 20/20/5 set of chips for up to 15 and you would be able to jockey the numbers to up to 20-25 players easily. This also gives you plenty of $500 and $1000 chips for color-ups. If all your $100 chips are in play, just use the $500's to buy back whatever $100 chips you need and so forth.

I have played up to 16 players with four re-buys with my 700 chip setup and have not had any problems, so I can't imagine the breakdown I describe above not covering your described scenario.

Let me know what you think or if you have any questions. You can even PM me if you would like and I can send you my blinds schedule or any other info you might like.

[jmda]

For my tournaments I use green for $25, black for $100, purple for $500 and yellow for $1000. I make a T2000 blind schedule and give each player either 8 green, 8 black and 2 purple or 12 green, 12 black and 1 purple. With 800 chips you would have enough to host 40 people (320 green, 400 black and 80 purple) thought you really need a few more chips for chipping up to higher denoms other wise there would be 400 black and 80 purple at the final table. For 20 people you can figure it out, but 800 is really over-kill (and expensive to ship I might add). You need a min of 160 green, 200 black, 40 purple - but more purple and some yellow for chipping up, or rebuys or for if you run a T5000.

[jldecarlo]

Originally Posted by jmda

For my tournaments I use green for $25, black for $100, purple for $500 and yellow for $1000. I make a T2000 blind schedule and give each player either 8 green, 8 black and 2 purple or 12 green, 12 black and 1 purple. With 800 chips you would have enough to host 40 people (320 green, 400 black and 80 purple) thought you really need a few more chips for chipping up to higher denoms other wise there would be 400 black and 80 purple at the final table. For 20 people you can figure it out, but 800 is really over-kill (and expensive to ship I might add). You need a min of 160 green, 200 black, 40 purple - but more purple and some yellow for chipping up, or rebuys or for if you run a T5000.

What you describe will work, but 18-25 starting chips is light IMO. I would rather have each person start with closer to 50 chips. It makes a lot of chips on the table, but what's wrong with that. Part of the fun is having big stacks at the end.


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[jmda]

THat is the way I have been running tournaments for a while. One or two players at each table will end up running out of green and need change out of the pot, but that is not a big deal. Casinos usually hand out even less chips, but they of course have a full time dealer that will make change out of every pot and keep it running smoothly.

Too many chips on the table is really a pain when you are running more than one table and especially 3 to 5 like I have a few times. Having fewer chips makes chipping up easier, easier to move players when balancing tables, and more room on the tables. With one table it is no big deal - give everyone a ton of chips to play with.

[ky70]

I have a 675 chip set that I always use for cash games and often use for tourneys. I have configured the chips to accommodate T5000 tourneys for up to 26 players with color-ups (no rebuys).
I have:
210 - 25 denom chips
245 - 100 denom chips
65 - 500 denom chips
55 - 1000 denom chips
100 - non denom chips

For 1 - 10 players I hand out 40 chips per player:
20 x 25 denom
15 x 100 denom
4 x 500 denom
1 x 1000 denom

For 11 - 17 players I hand out 29 chips per player:
12 x 25 denom
12 x 100 denom
3 x 500 denom
2 x 1000 denom

For 18 - 26 players I hand out 20 chips per player:
8 x 25 denom
8 x 100 denom
2 x 500 denom
1 x 1000 denom
1 x 2000 (non denom chip)

The 100 non denom chips allow for a lot of flexibility with configuring tourney chip handouts and with color ups. I can use this same set for T10,000 tourneys for up to 26 people. So if you have the option, include 1 non denom chip in your set.

[seymour]

Originally Posted by ky70

The 100 non denom chips allow for a lot of flexibility with configuring tourney chip handouts and with color ups. I can use this same set for T10,000 tourneys for up to 26 people. So if you have the option, include 1 non denom chip in your set.

What do you use for starting stacks for T10,000? We use 12x25, 17x100, 10x500, and 3x1000 - we tried 20x25 at first, but found there was just too many on the table for what was being bet. 12 has worked well.

[ky70]

Originally Posted by seymour

What do you use for starting stacks for T10,000? We use 12x25, 17x100, 10x500, and 3x1000 - we tried 20x25 at first, but found there was just too many on the table for what was being bet. 12 has worked well.

I like your setup.

The non denom chips really come in handy...T10,000 tourneys for 1 - 17 players I use the non denom chip as $5000 but for 18-26 players I use the chip as $2000. Looks strange to use the non denom for a lower value with more people but it makes the chip distribution and color ups better.

Here go my T10,000 starting stacks:
For 1 - 10 players I hand out 41 chips per player:
same as T5000 listed in above post plus 1 x 5000 (non denom chip)

For 11 - 17 players I hand out 30 chips per player:
same as T5000 listed in above post plus 1 x 5000 (non denom chip)

For 18 - 26 players I hand out 23 chips per player:
8 x 25 denom
8 x 100 denom
2 x 500 denom
2 x 1000 denom
3 x 2000 (non denom chip)

Side note: I just looked at my T5000 set up and with a 26 man game (130k in play) I could still accommodate rebuys and add-ons as I would only need 26k to color up the 25s and 100s and I would have over 180k in 1000 denom and 2000 denom chips that are not in play. Good to know I can use the same structure even if I decide to do rebuys/add-ons.

[Marmaduk]

I'm really liking your setup Wylecyo. It seems to fit the game i am lookin for best. Also the non denom chip is a great idean Ky. I will probably take 25chips less of both the $25 and $100 and get some non denoms or maybe just label them 2k or 5k.
but this is exactly the kind of stuff i am looking for.
keep up the conversation guys.
hey whyle could you post your blind schedual if possible?

[CaptLego]

I find it handy to play around with a spreadsheet to evaluate different breakdowns, starting stacks, number of players, buy-in, color-up, etc.
You can download my spreadsheet from here:
http://www.captlego.com/Download.html

That spreadsheet is setup to handle 1 NCV as is.