[Captn_All_In]

I am looking to add a night where we rotate Stud, Holdem, and Omaha (all high) and the HE and O would be PL.

So I am trying to figure out the bring in/complete bet for stud when its compared to the ante and Big Bet. I think the blinds for HE and O are pretty standard.

Here is what I am thinking so far:

Starting Stack is $20 (this is the minimum and usually everyone buys in for this amount, occasionally someone will buy in for a bit more)

Stud- Limit:
Ante - .05¢
Bring in- .05¢
Complete- .15¢
Big Bet on 5,6,7- .25¢

Hold'em- Pot Limit:
SB: .05¢
BB: .10¢

Omaha- Pot Limit:
SB: .05¢
BB: .10¢

Do those numbers seem reasonable? Again my biggest concern are with the stud Bring in and Complete, compared to the ante and Big Bet.

Thoughts, comments, criticism, etc....

Thanks.

[the3rd]

I just found this thread. I'd make hold'em and Omaha .10/.25 fixed limit. Unless you have a dealer or PL veterans around the table, it is just easier that way. It also plays better with stud. I'd make the complete .10 for stud.

[Captn_All_In]

Thanks for the reply 3rd. I actually proposed this to the guys last week and 1 of them was concerned about PL so I made it spread limit .05¢-$1.

So the whole structure looks like this:

Stud- Limit:
Ante - .05¢
Bring in- .05¢
Complete- .15¢
Big Bet on 5,6,7- .25¢

Hold'em- .05¢-$1 Spread Limit:
SB: .05¢
BB: .10¢

Omaha- .05¢-$1 Spread Limit:
SB: .05¢
BB: .10¢

Now can I ask why you think the bring in is .10¢? That doesn't seem like much of a difference between the bring in and the complete, which I think would just cause everyone to make the full bet instead of just the bring in: even when they have a junk hand to start with.

Should I make the small bet and big bet larger? (consider the $20 starting stack)

[the3rd]

Originally Posted by Captn_All_In

Now can I ask why you think the bring in is .10¢? That doesn't seem like much of a difference between the bring in and the complete, which I think would just cause everyone to make the full bet instead of just the bring in: even when they have a junk hand to start with.

Should I make the small bet and big bet larger? (consider the $20 starting stack)

Personally for small stud games, I prefer spread limit. Ex. 1-5 SL with a $1 bring in. If you want bigger pots, use a dealer ante same size as the bring in. Everyone pays about the same in antes per round this way as the traditional way. This is so much easier than trying to get everyone to put in their antes every hand.

To be honest, I can't see how one nickel effects starting requirements at all. If you don't want to play every pot eight handed or want to control the pot size, raise the stakes of the entire game until the limp threshold improves.

It wouldn't hurt to make the limits in all games .25/.50. A $20 buy-in is good for 40 big bets. I rarely start a limit HE game with more than 30. This puts 30 cents in the pot for stud before the bring in and 35 cents for HE and Omaha.

The people I play with play anything under 1/2 NL like a freeroll SNG. On New Year's Eve I played .25/.50 NL for the first time in a while. It was no fun. I expect things to be loose and I'm not trying to "earn" in a game like that, but there were 3 full rebuys in the first 8 hands and the standard raise was 8-10 times the BB or all-in. I sound like Phil Hellmuth.

[Captn_All_In]

Don't be so hard on the boys Phil! They are just trying to have fun!

Thanks for the explanation, I will be giving it some thought and let you know how it goes. I just realized this last night while I was setting up the garage that if 8 guys show up tonight I won't be able to play any 7 stud games. YIKES!!! That is of course I have the dealer sit out each hand...hmmm.....something to ponder today while I educate the masses!

Thanks Again 3rd!

[the3rd]

Eight players for stud shouldn't be a problem. Do you think you'll get seven or eight guys seeing the river? I dealt a 7-stud game and a couple guys looked at me like I had grown a horn when I burnt cards before the next street. I'm not a fan of it, but not burning gets you four extra cards. There is always the community card river option for when the stub gets thin.

Congrats on inventing the time machine. I just noticed you are now 2 years old.

[Captn_All_In]

Originally Posted by the3rd

Congrats on inventing the time machine. I just noticed you are now 2 years old.

Thanks, yeah it was a long process, but well worth it. You wouldn't think time travel would be such a big deal, I mean, c'mon they do it all the time on tv right?