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Old 08-22-2007, 03:15 PM
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What hand has the best chance against AA?

What starting cards would have the best chance to beat pocket A's in holdem?
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:22 PM
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Re: What hand has the best chance against AA?

TT?.. A pair and also eliminates alot of the straight options of the A's whilst maximising your own. 55 also.
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Re: What hand has the best chance against AA?

I know there's someone that will be able to answer this with certainty, but I'll guess any suited connectors that don't share the suit with either of the aces and don't go to the ace--I guess low to middle suited connectors would be best. A pocket pair realistically only gives you 2 outs to beat the aces and he's got the same odds to draw an ace. Now watch me be dead wrong on this.
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Re: What hand has the best chance against AA?

9T sooted - maybe not...

89 sooted should be better. So would 78 and 67
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Re: What hand has the best chance against AA?

believe that it is 67s, 78s, or 89s all have approx. 23% pf equity against AA.

they are your best bet.
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Re: What hand has the best chance against AA?

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I know there's someone that will be able to answer this with certainty, but I'll guess any suited connectors that don't share the suit with either of the aces and don't go to the ace--I guess low to middle suited connectors would be best. A pocket pair realistically only gives you 2 outs to beat the aces and he's got the same odds to draw an ace. Now watch me be dead wrong on this.
I'll be wrong with you since this is exactly how I would answer the question too.
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Re: What hand has the best chance against AA?

From Poker Stove:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 77.796% 77.61% 00.18% 31896036 74358.00 { AA }
Hand 1: 22.204% 22.02% 00.18% 9050544 74358.00 { T9s }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 77.940% 77.77% 00.17% 31958460 71310.00 { AA }
Hand 1: 22.060% 21.89% 00.17% 8994216 71310.00 { 98s }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 77.537% 77.37% 00.17% 31794840 69066.00 { AA }
Hand 1: 22.463% 22.30% 00.17% 9162324 69066.00 { 87s }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 77.525% 77.34% 00.18% 31784892 74394.00 { AA }
Hand 1: 22.475% 22.29% 00.18% 9161616 74394.00 { 76s }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 77.501% 77.29% 00.21% 31764036 85296.00 { AA }
Hand 1: 22.499% 22.29% 00.21% 9160668 85296.00 { 65s }
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Re: What hand has the best chance against AA?

Norman Chad said on a recent WSOP telecast that against aces, the

best hand is 9-8 suited

worst hand is Ace-6 unsuited

This according to Cardplayer magazine he said. I know he is not the definitive authority on these things, but I have read something similar to this before.
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Re: What hand has the best chance against AA?

I know that I like 10J better than AK... Mike Caro told me so.
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Re: What hand has the best chance against AA?

i like 49s. it's been lucky for me. it can make flushes, and b/c it's a 4 gapper it can make straights from a-5 all the way up to 9-K.

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Hand 0: 51% 50.8% 00.20% 6676332 84072.00 { 94s }
Hand 1: 49% 48.8% 00.20% 34250820 84072.00 { AA }
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