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Old 06-17-2007, 12:37 AM
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Bad Seller Beware!!

Ebay seller - godsnumber1.

I purchased almost 4 racks of chips from this seller, full racks of $1s, $5s, $25s and a rack of 96 - $100 chips. These are all tri-club mold chips with Casino School Inc. stamped on one side and denom. stamped on the other.

I received the chips but I got shafted on the $5s and $100s. He sent me a rack of blank, red mermaid mold chip and 90 blank, black mermaid and super diamond chips. There were only 6 black $100 Casino School Inc chips. I sent him a message through ebay saying that he false advertised on these 2 racks of chips. His reply was that I'm "pulling a scam" and want me to proof that I didn't get the right chips. With that kind of reply. I went straight to paypal and filed a dispute.

Here are the 2 items in question:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...6184&rd=1&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...4850&rd=1&rd=1


If you're interested in the details of the dispute read on...

For those that are not familiar with the dispute process, paypal would like poeple to try and settle thing themselves first and if that fails they will review the case and provide a judgement.

So here's message to the seller throught paypal:
[quote]Item 130119076184 – your description said "one lot -- hard to find -- Casino Schools Inc. -- Gaming School 5-dollar chips". The chips I received are not from Casino Schools Inc. and the design of the chips are totally different to the picture you have shown in your listing. Item 130120444850 – your description said, "a Tray of 100-dollar poker chips….from the Casino Schools Inc". In the tray that I received, there are 6 chips that matched the description. All the other chips are not from the Casino Schools Inc. and the designs on the chips are totally different. This is false advertising of the chips and I want a full refund on these 2 items.[quote]

His reply:
[quote]the 2 items in question were marked casino school chips as shown in the description, buyer would not send me pic. of what he claims were false adv. and as far as refund in the shipping it clearly states in my refund policy -- no refund on shipping --

Anouther thing buyer stated -- i stated in my description i bought these chips as a -- LOT -- and that was how i was selling them --- i never stated each and every chip was casino school because i did not go thru each individual chip if i had i would have stated that some maybe different or that all was casino school chips -- and if buyer would have emailed me and ask if they were all alike i would have been happy to check them to see -- but as far the listing ststeing they were all casino school chips i did not state at any time they were all alike -- now i have checked my chips i have left over and i do have some more that state casino school just like the ones i sold[quote]

So here my reply
[quote]How can you say it's not false advertising when the picture of your items shows nothing but chips with Casino School stamped on them? NONE of the red chip you sent me has that stamped on it. So how do you explain that? On the second item, your description says "Tray of 100-dollar poker chips" that main every single chip in this tray is a $100 poker chip and that's not what I got. "i did not go thru each individual chip if i had i would have stated that" that is just ignorance and it proofs that you have misrepresented the item. You know what, I just want my money. It doesn't really matter how you or I interpret the description. I should have known you're trouble when Ebay pulled your item. You owe me $96.98. How do you want to settle this?[quote]

If he dosen't send a refund after this. I'm letting paypal settle it. This guy is a nightmare. It's going to cost me to send the chips back to him and it wouldn't be cheap cause I have to make sure that I get confirmed delivery.
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:10 AM
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Re: Bad Seller Beware!!

Sorry to hear about this. There are some bad people in the world. Good luck and I hope you get your money back.
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Old 06-17-2007, 06:11 AM
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Re: Bad Seller Beware!!

Thanks for the info. I use eBay a lot and rely on the feedback system when deciding to deal with people, especially for higher value items. I noticed this guy's feedback was over 99%, so it's easy to feel you are dealing with a reputable seller. Your story changes everything.

Good luck with your refund attempt. Keep us updated; I've always found PayPal to be very fair in their dispute resolution.

Thanks again.

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Old 06-17-2007, 06:19 PM
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Re: Bad Seller Beware!!

Thanks for the heads up!
Sorry to hear that you are having problems...
I too am going through a dispute with PayPal at this time to recover the $ I spent on just a single chip.

If & When you do get your refund, you will get a full refund of what you paid him through PayPal, including the shipping fees that you originally paid... That's how PayPal rolls!

Hope you get this settled soon.


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Re: Bad Seller Beware!!

How did you pay through paypal? Hopefully you used a credit card. Assuming you did - file a claim through the cc right away too. Between the two you will get your $ back - maybe even twice. That'l really piss the seller off.
Good luck - sorry to hear about this D-bag seller
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Re: Bad Seller Beware!!

Thanks everyone for your reply. It's up to paypal now to decide on this claim. I'm getting no where with this seller, which I'm not surprised. I'll definately post the outcome.

I say that I've delt with a fair number of seller on and off ebay. There's only one other time where a chip didn't show up, I got my money back for that. I should have check this guys feedback more closely. Looking at some of his neg. feedbacks and the way he responded to them. That should have been a good indication that he could be trouble.
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Re: Bad Seller Beware!!

I must have been lucky. I got a rack (well...98 ) of the 25s he was selling. They were all as described (no blank green mermaids or dice or anything). Don't know what I'm going to do with them, but I did get them.

Good luck in your quest for justice. Stuff like that just burns my butt.

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Re: Bad Seller Beware!!

There's no problems with the rack of 1s and 25s I got either. It's only the other demon.
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Re: Bad Seller Beware!!

Just an update. I got a respond from paypal that I'll get full refund(include shipping) back, but I have to return the crappy chips to the seller with a tracking number.

I was hoping that I don't have to do that cause who knows what this seller might pull. He might make up some story about the chips I returned. Hopefully, paypal will give me the refund once the track shows it's been delivered.
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Re: Bad Seller Beware!!

You can send him dice chips and PP won't know the difference, nor care. They will only be concerned with the tracking #. I got shafted by PP before because they were only concerned with the tracking #, not the contents of the package.
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