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Originally Posted by BPTDirector  Case 1 - The cards speak - no other way - even if someone totally misses what they have on the board, if it is spotted and his cards are better he rakes in the pot. |
Yes, this is correct. It does not matter if the dealer or another player spots the error. In fact, the rules state that the other players should speak up if they see a mistake about to be made.
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Originally Posted by BPTDirector Case 2 - A little more iffy to some but not really to a casino - the bet was called, cards not in muck, the cards speak and I believe the dealer would show both shown down hands because collusion could occur if you allowed a muck here that may result in a chip dump to a partner at the table. |
Were the bettor's cards face down but still in front of him? The general rule is that if the cards are clearly not mucked, then the bettor can turn over the cards and those cards speak -- he can claim the pot. The rule states that, "in the interest of the game, the dealer can turn over those cards if they are specifically identifiable."
Local rules could change this, with a specific rule about "forward motion is a fold." WSOP Circuit events are supposed to use this rule, so I don't think you were totally out of line.
