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Old 05-08-2008, 02:54 AM
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Re: Two hands with big pairs

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The game is 5/10c NL w/ $10 stacks. Players tend to be a little on the loose side, but are capable of making decent reads and laydowns/value bets/bluffs as appropriate. I am "hero" in one of the following hands and my friend is "hero" in the other. We'd (as a group) would probably be able to hold our own in a 1/2NL casino game (i know, it's not saying much).

Would you guys play either hand differently?

Hand #1: (first hand of cash game for the night)
3 limpers
Button (hero) raises to 35c w/ QQ
SB folds
BB calls
3 limpers call -- $1.80 in the pot

Flop is Jh Th 7d
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP bets 75c, fold, hero raises to $1.5
BB reraises to $3, MP folds, hero pushes all-in

MP tends to be somewhat loose preflop, but seems to be experienced at cash games. She also tends to play straightforward postflop.

BB tends to play tighter OOP and a little looser in position. It's hard to put him on a hand here, except it's probably not QQ+/AK.
I would have raised a lot more on the flop. Pots is 1.80, multiway, and MP is betting somewhat small. Board is well co-ordinated with a lot of draws. I would raise to about $3.

As played, if BB is really that tight, I have to think pretty hard about BB's min c/r, and what it means. It's a little weird, and sort of smells like a set, although a big draw is possible here too. Obviously 89 is the nuts, which maybe he calls with out of the BB if he thinks he can get paid, and I can see him wanting to bet out MP as with her smallish bet a draw seems pretty likely. A weak player could have AJ here, but given your preflop raise/flop raise, a good player should be getting rid of it, I think? This is all assuming the BB is as tight as you say. Against a LAG I'm gleefully pushing money into the pot. Honestly, I would strongly consider folding here, but possibly just smooth call and re-evaluate the turn, and push a blank.

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Hand #2: $10 stacks, about 1.5hrs later
UTG limps, hero raises to 50c w/ AA, MP calls, button (MP from previous hand) calls, blinds fold, UTG calls.
4 players and $2.10 in the pot.

Flop: 9 7 2 rainbow
UTG leads for $1, hero calls $1, MP folds, button raises to $3
UTG folds, hero pushes all in

Button could possibly have 68 or T8 here, but it's unlikely. Given the bet and call, it's probably best to call getting 4:1 and position. A9/K9 might be possible as well, but I'd expect button to call with these hands (instead of raising). 97/ 99/77/22 and overpairs are probably the most likely hands the button would have.
Really, you haven't shown very much aggression in this hand up until your push. Your are so far ahead of the buttons range that it's ridiculous. With your shallow $10 stacks, a push seems entirely reasonable. If you get beat (y something like a set) shrug it off and load up again.
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