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Old 10-18-2006, 10:26 AM
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Re: Noob questions

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Originally Posted by PocketRocket
Well ... I don't know who, and really don't care to read through 96 pages of postings to see who might be thinking of sticking a label over a hotstamp. It's your choice, if you want to destroy the center of your chip (and I guarantee that you will entirely destroy several) then so be it. To be perfectly honest, a hot stamped chip with a label on it will look, like crap unless you can sand down to the bottom of the hotstamp so that it doesn't show through. Alternatively you could fill the intentation if the chip is scraped, and then you've got to figure out how much room there is for you to put a label on and whether there will be adequate clearance so that the labels don't rub against each other.

There are too many variables for an exact how-to. The proper way would of course to apply the inlay properly and with heat and pressure. But you should be able to slap the label on the chip without too much effort if you're determined to do that.

Insofar as the textured label is concerned, that's created by the compression mold, not from the "label" as the inlay is pressed into the chip and bonded permanently to the chip material.

If you're just going to print labels, then something like Photoshop will be more than adequate if you're already familiar with it's use. If you're going to design your own label you'd probably be better off with Illustrator, but if you don't already know how to use it, it's not likely that you'll be able to learn it in time to create your labels; it requires time and training.

Though to be perfectly honest, just from reading the questions in your original post, I'd suspect you're already on a path to disappointment and may be jumping into this a little too quickly.
I totally disagree- as long as the recessed depth is sufficient AND you use an image/lamination combination with sufficient regidity ( meaning 2.5-3mil thickness in the vinyl and 3-4 mil on the lamination you will NEVER know the chip was originally hotstamped.

The biggest problem with home labelers is theres no specific sizes available- your stuck with 7/8 or 1 inch which just dont work if your chip diameter is 1.020 ( nexgen) give or take a few clicks...also you cant get any decent quality materials-- mostly paper or glossed paper.

ALso- some printers eliminate the lamination phase- saying the vinyl inks are waterproof and smudgeproof- it is BUT the images wont stand up to any usage- people have a tendency to dig their fingernails into images- and without a hard lamination your chips will end up being gauged over time.

Cost is another factor- to go over preprinted or prehotstamped chips the right way isnt cheap- if you choose cast vinyl and polycarbonate lamination

Forget paper labels or vinyl and NO lam- the material will be too thin and the hotstamp will show through as the images is pressed

Ya need to get samples- mic the diameter AND the depth- then you will have enough information to see if going over the hotstamp will be feasable.

My two cents


this is a Paulson with a cast vinyl image UV bonded to the chip--the new image diameter leaves a SLIGHT reveal of the existing color- but this can be increased to eliminate and reveal
I will find a hotstamped chip here and do the same thing so you can see that no telltale signs of the hotstamp will come through.
The above image is laminated also -- and the entire overlay still rests UNDER the face of the chip- so stackability is not effected
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Last edited by palmimports : 10-18-2006 at 10:54 AM.
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