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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff Also, to correct what you said, if you're getting 4 to 1 after the turn on a flush draw, you do have the correct odds to call without even considering implied odds. | Then maybe I am not understanding something properly. So please correct me if that is the case.
There is 750 in the pot and it cost me 250 to call. The pot odds are then 4 to 1. Making my flush draw also has 4 to 1 odds.
This means in 4 games I call the 250, and one of those games I win 1000. This seems like an even bet, so why would you want to call an even bet? My common sense and everything I read about pot odds says that you want to call bets when you have favorable pot odds. | if the pot's 750 and it costs you 250, you're only getting 3-1.
pay 250 to win 750. |
That's right. To follow out the odds, say you made this play 5 times. 4 of those 5 times you would miss your draw and that would cost you 1,000. The one time you hit, you'd win 750. That's bad.
Generally, breakeven bets are OK because you can also factor in implied odds. For instance, say you hit your flush on the turn and it also gives your opponent trips (or whatever other kind of second best hand). You're more than likely going to win more than the 750 and very possibly even bust him. Of course, the flush card could kill all action also and you won't win any more.
If your flush misses, you have to recalculate everything again for the river and see if the price is right again.
This is what took me a long time to learn. It doesn't matter how much you have "invested" in the pot. Once it's in the pot, it's gone. All that matters then is if you are getting the right price to pay
more to win what the pot currently has.
